• Nora@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    Maybe don’t link an article with a paywall. thanks.

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      30 minutes ago

      Try „mirror”.

  • Gsus4@mander.xyz
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    How long would it take a coalition of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, Poland…or just all of the EU to build as many nukes as Kim Yong Un has? Maybe a week or a month…

    Because that seems to be the only way to get any respect from trump and his toadies.

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        Eh, France has too much to lose even in a minor nuclear exchange (Paris), they would probably only use them if their soil was threatened (in which case you have their funny warning nuke policy). We need a full umbrella from all the EU to all the EU, with keys in the hands of different rotating states/officials to make them more than just bureaucrats.

        Same for the UNSC, probably, a nuke closet for when stupid countries do stupid things. Fascists don’t care about anything else.

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          The French nuclear forces are ocean and air based. Thus they could easily cover the entire EU and the French have often asked other EU members to contribute to finance this expensive endeavor… with very little success.

          But I don’t see much difference between France or any other EU member state. They are all densely populated and would suffer hugely from any kind of nuclear exchange. The entire point of nuclear weapons is that it never comes to that though, and the French nuclear weapons are well equipped as a deterrent due to a theoretical second strike capability.

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            Fine, yea, it’d be good to just chip in to get ready-to-go state-of-the-art coverage. Maybe they hold back because they don’t want to be so beholden to a single country like France at least until the US becomes completely unreliable.

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    Sounds like it is truly time to station troops in Greenland to defend against the US. The issue will need to be forced, so Drumpf either backs down, or crosses the line into hostility so the world will wake up from its denial of the danger.

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      No, Greenland is in the Nato. When the US attacks then half of the us army will be on the offence, the other half on the defence to keep the us army out.

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    It’s 5 past 12 to build up our own Military Industry and have a “Zero-American-Products” Policy in our military.

    Many Weapons, Jets and Vehicles are dependent on American Start codes to function for their entire lifecycle.

    It was foolish to accept such clauses in the first place

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    Why does the Danish PM even pick up the phone?

    Or if she did by mistake, she can always do what I do with telemarketers who try to sell me shit I don’t want: put the phone down on mute and wait until the telemarketer understands nobody’s on the line and hangs up.

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      European politicians’ job description has included enduring the sheer stupidity of US diplomacy since forever.

      Do you remember when you wanted us to go bomb Iraq because Saudi Arabia bombed you, and when you got told that that’s dumb as fuck, renamed fries as a response?

      The US has never not been idiotic. It’s just on cocaine now.

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        We’ve moved onto bath salts and meth from cocaine. It’s a whole new level of stupid and the whole world is in for a bad ride.

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      Do you want to put money on that? Because I wouldn’t.

      Trump is crazy enough to do it - or rather the Project 2025 sumbitches who are remote-controlling him in the background, because he sure as hell ain’t the one coming up with all those executive orders he’s signing.

      And while the whole world would scream and shout in outrage, nobody would be able to do a damn thing about it.

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        He can try, but that would be an attack on the rest of NATO and it would definitely grab the attention of Russia and China that don’t want the US monopolizing the Arctic. And there’s nothing that puts all existing grievances on pause like a nazi lunatic doing land grabs.

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          Lol, Russia wants him to do this. Both to foment discontent and to alter the Arctic shipping routes.

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          Imagine what kind of scumbag you have to be to even follow the order to invade a place like that? They don’t even enter our lexicon most of the time. This is purely imperialism and blatantly so. In this century, to follow orders to invade like that is lunacy, cowardice, and ignorance all in one.

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        If there’s an invasion NATO will have to intervene. No choice. And it’s they don’t it’s WW3 for sure. Because all the structure that keep a relative peace will fall down.

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          I am no expert in the exact NATO regulation, but I think in a recent spat between Greece and Türkiye NATO said that inter-NATO fights do not trigger any mandatory aid from other NATO members.

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        The UK would probably broker the deal behind the scenes, in public professing calm but, behind closed doors, putting pressure on Denmark to accept and buttering Trump up to compensate them generously for it. Outside the EU, Britain is weak except for its NATO membership, and that won’t be of any help here, so it’s in Britain’s interest that this is resolved as smoothly as possible, and that they remain in Trump’s good books.

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        Do you imagine the amount of backlash that would cause?

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          Just as much as the US pulling out of the WHO, ordering other nations to up their military spendings, threatening other nations with insane tariffs, threatening to invade or annex them or dropping military support unexpectedly: not very much…

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            Just as much:

            as the US pulling out of the WHO

            To the degree of what I know, the WHO is not a mandatory organization to which countries are bound to.

            It is benefitial to adhere to it but…

            ordering other nations to up their military spendings

            All nations vinculated by the NATO treaty have agreed to invest, yearly, a given percentage of their budget towards defence. Something most didn’t do it… hate to admit it but the guy had a point to pick there

            threatening other nations with insane tariffs

            Economic warfare is poised to wreck the US economy faster. The consumerist culture is too strong.

            threatening to invade or annex them

            Everyone us trembling in fear. More about to foam at the mouth of rage.

            dropping military support unexpectedly

            Hardly anything coming from that mouth is unexpected.

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          I think they would pretend it didn’t happen and talk it down. Otherwise they would have to acknowledge that Trump got them with Pants down

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            I couldn’t disagree more.

            As the orange myna bird rethoric escalates, so does the willingness of other actors to bite back.

            Having a nazi as a focus point of all the frustration and hatred is a good way to shift attention from internal issues.

            Nobody really wants to be called to pick up arms but the US don’t have the monopoly of war in the world.

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    Children often react poorly when they’re learning a lesson, I imagine this is true for lil pants shittin nazi donny

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    Trump should rather talk to Múte Egede the prime minister of Greenland 🤷‍♂️