• lugal
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    11 hours ago

    Not disagreeing here but what leads to the point where there is no more left position than wealthy oligarchs?

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Comfort.

      Gen 1 fights fascism.

      Gen 2 enjoys society and understands how much worse it can be.

      Gen 3 grows up with all the advantages and privilege, takes it for granted, and burns it down so they don’t have to pay for Gen 4 to have it.

      • that is when both sides sell out to the oligarchs

      Gen 4 is fucked and desperate, and either disengage politically or go with the party that’s the best liars.

      • that is where we are now.

      What comes next?

      If we’re lucky at the DNC chair election they see the error of their ways, the neoliberals lose their death grip on the party, and shit gets better surprisingly fast. If we’re lucky we came close enough to the ground that we go to Gen 2.

      If we’re not, the left most option sides with the oligarchs over voters, and it’s time to affix your own oxygen mask before helping your neighbor. We’re back at Gen 1, and it might take a while

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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        10 hours ago

        Comfort

        I think that’s kinda a trope along the lines of the “hard men create soft men” saying.

        In reality fascism is a reactionary response to the very idea of democracy itself. It’s not completely economical in nature, which makes defining fascism when you see it harder a lot of the time.

        As we saw with German and Italian fascism, there will of course be collaboration with capital, but a Hallmark of fascist is that they are at times completely fine with socializing private equity, usually as a way to further their culturally conservative goals.

        Fascism is the reactionary response to social equity. It propagates itself by releasing havoc into the political hierarchy and then proclaiming only they can fix the system they broke themselves.