Incorrect. A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.
If it should work as you described, it seems the mods are confused too.
It’s one thing to say he’s innocent because you believe he didn’t murder the guy. It’s an entirely different thing to say he was justified in murdering someone, or to encourage others to commit a murder. The latter is not legally defensible.
Sure, that’s one option. Juries have the authority to apply a moral standard rather than a legal standard. Another apparently viable option is to request a presidential pardon. Or better yet, run for office and win.
Personally, I doubt the evidence against Luigi is conclusive, so I’d argue that he’s simply innocent. But I would certainly not encourage anyone else to start murdering executives, because that would be legally indefensible.
A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.
Waaaay back when it happened (feels like months but wasn’t it just a few weeks?) there was a mod who didn’t understand things and removed some comments they shouldn’t. What I remember blowing up was removal of a comment just mentioning jury nullification was a thing. The mod thought because you’d get removed from a jury for talking about it, it was against US law to talk about it.
Which is incredibly ignorant.
Going off memory tho admins stepped in quickly and clarified what was ok.
So if you want to talk about a past issue and how it was resolved, that’s fine.
But it’s a different conversation than what we’re having, which is about post admin clarification
So, you want how things are being run today? Great. A comment was removed 22 hours ago that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, and the reason given was “wrongful advocacy”. Check the modlogs.
There is currently a mod who doesn’t understand things and is removing some comments they shouldn’t. Present tense.
Was that from an instance admin or an overzealous community mod? I am missing some context, but generally there is no bar for entry for who gets to be a moderator and they are allowed to run their communities however they want as long as their rules don’t contradict those of the instance. I could make a community that bans people for using the word “blanket” and that’s my prerogative as long as it doesn’t violate instance rules.
Looks like a mod replied and then deleted so not sure what they said.
But yeah, those comments don’t seem to violate .world’s TOS, and I have no idea why a mod would have deleted them. But mods can be stricter than the instance.
I’m not sure why you’re blaming the whole instance for what one mod is doing.
Edit:
The thread title is “how to fight fascism” which is important context I missed earlier.
So yeah, the first comment saying just “Luigi” could very easily be considered a call to violence. Then the next one say “did nothing wrong” also makes sense to remove.
I’m not sure why you claim I’m being vague when I directly quote an entire comment.
You said “it’s against the terms of service, so the comment gets removed”. I pointed to a comment that did NOT violate terms of service, but got removed. You defended the instance with a faulty statement. All I did was point it out.
And no, it wasn’t a call to violence. If the statement was “we need more Luigis”, then THAT’s a call to violence. Just saying “he did nothing wrong” is the same as saying you hope he gets a jury nullification. It’s just taking his side.
I wasn’t talking about the “Luigi” comment. I was talking about the “did nothing wrong” comment. The “Luigi” comment can be seen as a call to violence, but the “did nothing wrong” comment was just a sign of support, not a call to violence. And the “did nothing wrong” comment was removed FIRST.
I fully understand what you’re saying. You’re just wrong.
Incorrect. A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.
If it should work as you described, it seems the mods are confused too.
Well, by law he is innocent until proven guilty in the USA, so if mods are removing comments like that they should be removed as mods.
It’s one thing to say he’s innocent because you believe he didn’t murder the guy. It’s an entirely different thing to say he was justified in murdering someone, or to encourage others to commit a murder. The latter is not legally defensible.
It sounds like you are describing jury nullification.
Sure, that’s one option. Juries have the authority to apply a moral standard rather than a legal standard. Another apparently viable option is to request a presidential pardon. Or better yet, run for office and win.
Personally, I doubt the evidence against Luigi is conclusive, so I’d argue that he’s simply innocent. But I would certainly not encourage anyone else to start murdering executives, because that would be legally indefensible.
Waaaay back when it happened (feels like months but wasn’t it just a few weeks?) there was a mod who didn’t understand things and removed some comments they shouldn’t. What I remember blowing up was removal of a comment just mentioning jury nullification was a thing. The mod thought because you’d get removed from a jury for talking about it, it was against US law to talk about it.
Which is incredibly ignorant.
Going off memory tho admins stepped in quickly and clarified what was ok.
So if you want to talk about a past issue and how it was resolved, that’s fine.
But it’s a different conversation than what we’re having, which is about post admin clarification
So, you want how things are being run today? Great. A comment was removed 22 hours ago that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, and the reason given was “wrongful advocacy”. Check the modlogs.
There is currently a mod who doesn’t understand things and is removing some comments they shouldn’t. Present tense.
Was that from an instance admin or an overzealous community mod? I am missing some context, but generally there is no bar for entry for who gets to be a moderator and they are allowed to run their communities however they want as long as their rules don’t contradict those of the instance. I could make a community that bans people for using the word “blanket” and that’s my prerogative as long as it doesn’t violate instance rules.
No idea why you’re being so vague…
This?
https://lemmy.world/comment/14592254
Looks like a mod replied and then deleted so not sure what they said.
But yeah, those comments don’t seem to violate .world’s TOS, and I have no idea why a mod would have deleted them. But mods can be stricter than the instance.
I’m not sure why you’re blaming the whole instance for what one mod is doing.
Edit:
The thread title is “how to fight fascism” which is important context I missed earlier.
So yeah, the first comment saying just “Luigi” could very easily be considered a call to violence. Then the next one say “did nothing wrong” also makes sense to remove.
I’m not sure why you claim I’m being vague when I directly quote an entire comment.
You said “it’s against the terms of service, so the comment gets removed”. I pointed to a comment that did NOT violate terms of service, but got removed. You defended the instance with a faulty statement. All I did was point it out.
And no, it wasn’t a call to violence. If the statement was “we need more Luigis”, then THAT’s a call to violence. Just saying “he did nothing wrong” is the same as saying you hope he gets a jury nullification. It’s just taking his side.
“Luigi” was the response to “how do we fight fascism”…
That is the context you were avoiding by not linking.
This isn’t an argument, I’m trying to explain something to you.
I wasn’t talking about the “Luigi” comment. I was talking about the “did nothing wrong” comment. The “Luigi” comment can be seen as a call to violence, but the “did nothing wrong” comment was just a sign of support, not a call to violence. And the “did nothing wrong” comment was removed FIRST.
I fully understand what you’re saying. You’re just wrong.