• Micromot@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    He still commited a crime which makes him a criminal which is just a fact and has nothing to do with the crime being justified

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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      1 month ago

      What makes someone “criminal” as a quality? Breaking the law? Killing people? Are all health insurance workers criminals too?

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        1 month ago

        I mean, the word criminal basically means law breaker.

        Now as many laws are unjust and many horrific actions are protected by the law.

        Just like at one point in time… a futitive slave, would be by definition a criminal, and his owner by definition not a criminal.

        Again, the whole concept is noting that it’s about the definition of the word criminal… and that criminal does not have to do with morality… only in concurance with the laws of the land it is taking place in.

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        1 month ago

        Commiting a crime makes you a criminal, so if you break a law you are a criminal. And if the decisions of health insurance workers are also breaking laws they are criminals too.

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          Then if you have ever gone faster than the speed limit, you are a criminal. That makes most people in the developed world criminals.

          That aside, the point is that naming someone a criminal has moralistic baggage, and by saying that anyone that breaks laws is a criminal thus immoral, you imply all laws are inherently moral.

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              1 month ago

              Depends on the jurisdiction. In some places in some conditions going 50 in a 30 is a criminal act that can result in jail time.

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                  1 month ago

                  It’s not noticing a sign next to roadworks in a city, sadly not uncommon.

                  I meant km/h, 30 is a fast cycling speed, 50 is the usual residential area speed limit.