By the “little guys” he means himself.
By himself he means corporate CEOs.
I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.
And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.
Fucking pathetic
Way different stance than 8 years ago.
That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.
Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell
Mullvad then I guess?
Same! And there’s not a good email alternative that’s as popular
How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?
What a way to alienate your entire customer base
Little guys? Like Coca Cola?
I hope you all see thru Trump’s Big Tech bullshit. It’s not to reign them in to make America competitive - or whatever other horseshit he spews out of that asshole he calls a mouth. It’s to get rid of the others so that he controls and censors the fuck out of the only avenue of social communication like his handlers.
Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can’t believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust… I was like bro okay in done.
Well thats a fuckin shame.
Good to know. Bye Proton.
Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can’t trust anyone this stupid with privacy.
“worked in media at Fox” the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.
It’s all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.
I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?
I’ll add another rec for posteo.de, I’ve used it for about a year and been very happy with it.
If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.
Posteo
Keep a proton for situations where you can actually use the encryption. Most of the time the encryption is as useless as a VPN.
Also keep in mind all it is is pgp with a directory lookup. I think proton made their pgp directory lookup more open in the last few years, so it may not have any real benefits.
Can you elaborate on the uselessness of a VPN?
PGP or other PKI.
Don’t trust people you’ve never met to give a shit about you
I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.
I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.
Was about to pay for proton. Not now
I’m glad I never did. I looked into proton a few months back and was highly suspicious of their non-profit status. I could never put my finger on why but felt off.
Glad I never fully committed to it.
Non-profit is a tax status not a business plan.
There’s Mullvad.
Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.
My current plan is:
VPN -> Mullvad
Mail -> Tuta
Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)
Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)
Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.
Is there a reason you’re not planning on migrating both mail and calendar to Tuta?
I was JUST about to take that plunge myself.
Great guide! I believe Tuta has the simple login functions.
I looked into this because I’m considering switching to them, and it seems like they only support it for custom domains.
Do you happen to know any alternatives for their email? Some security guy on YouTube was talking about how their email aliasing is better because if you lose a single email/password combo, you’re not subject to any other breaches.
I mean I already use a password manager since I adopted KeePass like 15 years ago and use Bitwarden now, but I still like that concept.
Posteo or tuta or fastmail.
Depends on if anyone you message uses proton. If they do, you can always get their pgp key and save it to thunderbird. If nobody you know uses proton, there is no benefit to their service over the above.
I have heard Tuta is good.
Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.
I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.
It’s a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.
Same, especially because I can’t get on Pornhub without one anymore!
Definitely no conflict of interest from this chode.
Same
