I am not buying an EV until they are using LFP batteries. LiFePo4 have so much more life…I really don’t want to be replacing huge banks of lithium ion in 5 years.
Some manufacturers seem to be getting on board with this. Disappointing that hedge clipper (what I know Fisker for) here isn’t one of them. Sorry…that is Fiskar, a totally different company.
My 8yo Outlander still has ~80% of original range on lithium batteries.
You might be one of those people keeping cars for 20 years, but majority swap cars much more frequently so lithium battery degradation is not really an issue.
A little over 70k miles on odo. Covid subtracted about a year worth of miles. I can’t even guesstimate charge/discharge cycles unfortunately.
When I bought the car I couldn’t charge at home for the first year so I wasn’t charging much and drove it like a regular hybrid.
After 1 year I was able to charge at home and doing about 90% electric driving. Discharging ~100% and recharging fully every night on days I drove the car.
LiFePo4 batteries have lower energy density than other Lithium Ion batteries and they’re more expensive. So while they have much longer life your EV running LiFePo4 is going to have shorter range.
I am not buying an EV until they are using LFP batteries. LiFePo4 have so much more life…I really don’t want to be replacing huge banks of lithium ion in 5 years.
Some manufacturers seem to be getting on board with this. Disappointing that hedge clipper (what I know Fisker for) here isn’t one of them. Sorry…that is Fiskar, a totally different company.
Could you link some stats for this?
My 8yo Outlander still has ~80% of original range on lithium batteries.
You might be one of those people keeping cars for 20 years, but majority swap cars much more frequently so lithium battery degradation is not really an issue.
Ah yes, let’s get rid of ICE vehicles so we can churn EVs every 5 years, that’ll help the environment taps forehead
Interesting. I have no stats. Do you have any idea how many miles or how many charge/discharge cycles you’ve done?
A little over 70k miles on odo. Covid subtracted about a year worth of miles. I can’t even guesstimate charge/discharge cycles unfortunately.
When I bought the car I couldn’t charge at home for the first year so I wasn’t charging much and drove it like a regular hybrid.
After 1 year I was able to charge at home and doing about 90% electric driving. Discharging ~100% and recharging fully every night on days I drove the car.
LiFePo4 batteries have lower energy density than other Lithium Ion batteries and they’re more expensive. So while they have much longer life your EV running LiFePo4 is going to have shorter range.
I’d love to be able to get a small lifepo for the city and keep my ICE for longer distances.
I think the real short term answer is a plug in hybrid LiFePo4 where the ICE is basically just a range extender.
I would absolutely take that trade-off. I don’t need a lot of range.
The MG4 is a sub 30 000€ available in Europe that uses LFP battery in the entry level version.