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      24 hours ago

      Citing gallup sources is Russian propaganda? Lmao are US schools just propaganda conditioning centers or what

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        24 hours ago

        Hey Russia is more than welcome to go back home any day and they there will be peace.

        Like blaming a strike on the workers. “Stupid workers picketing for better wages!”. Distraction tactic. Management can pay a fair wage and it will be over tonight.

        Russia can go home and there would be peace tomorrow

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          23 hours ago

          No it wouldn’t, delusional as usual from libs. Ukraine was bombing Donbas from 2015, killing upwards of 14k people.

          This was after the Minsk II accords where they negotiated, which is very reminiscent of the Israeli tactics in Lebanon of announcing a ceasefire and insisting only your opponent abide by it. It’s reminiscent because that’s the standard US client tactic, which they implement with complicity from the media knowing libs treat contradictory evidence as propaganda.

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              23 hours ago

              Did your script get jammed? They were bombing Donbas in violation of the peace deal for years after Russians had already exited the country.

              If the US insists on its clients violating brokered agreements, they shouldn’t be surprised when others don’t trust their word.

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                Got it. So for that instance, a great way to have peace would for be for them not to do that.

                A great way to have peace right now would be for Russia to leave. Like a great way for there to have peace would be for everyone to just… Have peace. Easy peasy.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Christ, I can get more intelligent conversation from a 7 year old anywhere in the world than a western adult I stg. It’s like talking to Matt Miller.

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          I’m not assuming anyone is Russian but nice try. I assume most of the negative ones are either American or Western European, because that’s almost the only regions where Russia is viewed very unfavorably by a clear majority, and this site skews anglo as shit, that is the UK, the US, and Australia.

          I’m not for more war, but y’all weirdos hear “we should listen to ukrainians and initiate peace talks” and interpret “we should unconditionally surrender the entirety of Ukraine and then most of eastern europe while we’re at it”, maybe because the only peace you’d accept is the unconditional surrender of Russia and its balkanization. Hate to break it to you, it’s not happening. Russia’s economy is outperforming most western ones, is growing faster than all of the major economies and has just surpassed Japan as the 4th in the world by GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity. But I imagine the World Bank is somehow Putin in disguise as well.

          It’s better to engage with reality than sacrifice Ukranians for your delusions.

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          Libs doing cartwheels to not engage with the evidence lmao. Are Ukrainians not wanting peace deals? If so, they should get them then. Fuck if a gringo thinks they oughta die because they think Ukrainians should keep fighting.

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              I don’t give a fuck about libs or any of the political parties in the States.

              Libs == liberals == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

              Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property

              Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. As a legal concept, private property is defined and enforced by a country’s political system.

              In other words, liberals are capitalism stans.

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              You’re still doing the propaganda work of the gringos.

              The point is, Ukrainians want it, Ukrainians should get it. You think the war should continue? That’s fine, get your country to wage it so you can go and fight it.