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    While Switzerland has universal health care it’s just by virtue of mandating everyone to get insurance from a private insurer.

    At least there is a basic insurance package called Grundversicherung, which the insurers have to accept you for that has defined coverage. But it doesn’t cover luxury bones (teeth) or vision.

    Anyway I’m just trying to say choose one of the other 31 to model the US system after.

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      Who has single payer that covers teeth and vision? And when I say vision I mean good glasses, not shit lenses.

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      Lol we ain’t changing shit.

      This country is an oligarch piggy bank.

      Our vote an illusion between sociopath capitalism+ribbons or sociopath capitalism+scapegoats. We don’t get a vote on the economy. We don’t get a vote to end an industry built on conning people into trusting them and paying them for years and then murdering them. Too profitable. That’s why our “leftwing” party declared victory further enshrining that industry into our lives, a heritage foundation plan, to demands by neoliberals we say thank you.

      There’s only one way Americans would ever get universal healthcare, but we’re largely too chickenshit, aside from one freedom fighter that will be made example of. So we’ll continue to be treated as livestock, mandated to pay when well, then told to fuck off and die when we become inconvient to the con industry’s quarterly profits.

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        I always wonder with posts like these, what exactly have you tried to do to fix it? We’ve certainly had primary choices that break the mold of typical spineless corporate Democrats. Did you donate to help save the seats of Jamaal Bowman or Cori Bush? Have you ever done any canvassing? Have you written to your representatives? Do you know the names of your representatives? Have you run for office yourself?

        All of us could be doing more and doing it better. The vast majority of citizens haven’t done nearly enough to have earned the right to claim that the system just can’t get better.

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          I phone banked for Sanders on two campaigns. I call and know my reps.

          I live in a rare caucus state. I’ll never, ever forget the silent scowls of neoliberals as leftists came up and tried to convince them to vote for Sanders, not one of them came up either time. Didn’t say a god damned word for their candidate. Just scowled and rolled their eyes wishing they didn’t have to sit through people talking.

          We won the room once by numbers and lost once, with no one changing their minds either time. Neoliberals just go the fuck along and do as their told without any opinion but tow the party line. Pathetic.

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    The US is barely a developed nation. The Economist reclassified the US as a flawed democracy in 2022. There were also proposals by members of the UNCTAD to reclassify the US as a developing nation in 2023, a classification formerly known as third world. The proposals were unsupported by the World Bank.

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/09/15/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality/

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      I don’t remember where I heard this, but someone a while back called America a “third-world country but with Walmarts.” And while the “third-world” moniker is a bit dated and problematic, I think the rest fits pretty well.

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        The US is like the Two-Face or Jekyll/Hyde of developed nations. It’s more like a developing nation with islands of modernity AND Walmarts.

        We have all this money, military, cultural influence, universities, businesses, and so many other by-the-numbers indicators of a modern society. But we don’t have the quality of life, and we just elected Donald Trump in goddamn 2024. Decisively so. Fuck.

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    The US has never had a social contract outside of a few things like social security, medicare and medicaid. It’s 335 million people lumped together with a good many of them doing everything they can to fuck everyone else over so they get a slightly bigger slice of the pie, unaware of the fact that if everyone worked together and looked out for one another, things would be much better for everyone.

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    Don’t worry: our greedy politicians are trying to erode it in all 32 other countries too. They want to be rich like HMO CEOs but not live in America, and don’t get the paradox.

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    Imagine if besides the right to bear arms, there were also hospitals for the bears.

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    Canada has free health care but it doesn’t exist anymore lol. Good luck seeing a doctor even when you’re dying

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      Similar to the other person that replied to you, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Some provinces have relatively crappy healthcare (looking at you, Alberta), but these outcomes are directly cause by conservative Premiers cutting funding to the system and policies that restrict immigrant doctors from being licensed with the schooling, experience, and licensing that was received in their country of origin.

      Despite all of this, I don’t wait grossly long in the emergency room if I have to go, I’m able to get a doctor for prescriptions, and I have clinics I can go to if I need non-critical care. All of it free (excluding medication, dental and some other critical items)

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        I’ve been on a waitlist for a family doctor for nearly 10 years

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          That doesnt mean Canada doesnt have a healthcare system, lol. Just because your experience in one part of the country has been bad doesnt mean all of Canada is without healthcare.

          Kind of a typical western Canadian perspective. Thinking your province represents the entire country.

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            Thinking your province represents the entire country.

            That’s ontario

            But yeah we should get more representation - like way more. We foot the bill of the entire nation.

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            I can if I go to the emergency room and wait for 10+ hours.

            But yeah here in Victoria the only remaining alternative is walk in clinics, which people are already lined up at 6am for 9am opening

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      We do have free health care, it works. It’s underfunded and understaffed as a result of Conservatives trying to destroy the public services, which gets people expressing dissatisfaction with the service, which allows them to further stripmine the system by funneling public funds to private clinics and the like to ‘improve things’ when really they should be properly funding our public system and paying more people good wages to work there

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        I live in NDP stronghold Victoria and we have way worse healthcare than Alberta for example.