Star Wars, specifically the universe created by the EU from 1991 to 1999. It was a wide open wild west of ideas. The details of the clone wars hadn’t been established, Anakin Skywalker as the chosen one didn’t exist, and there was just such a massive variety of content.
This, though I’d even be willing to stretch it a few years later.
You get everything from people analyzing the gritty details of the technology of the setting, to the classic wild adventure romps, to wacky mystic stuff. It brought us incredible stuff like the original Battlefront II’s portrayal of clones, Jango and Boba Fett being further fleshed out, Shatterpoint being basically Space Vietnam, and more.
I cut off at 1999 because that’s when The Phantom Menace came out. I still enjoy what that following era of the EU became, but TPM completely transformed the shape of the Star Wars EU. While the pre- and post- TPM EU is still officially the same continuity, the texture was so changed that you can easily treat them as two different visions of Star Wars.
Oh yeah, I totally understood why you chose to cut it off there. I’m just okay with a few more years of subsequent content.
I appreciate that following of EU as well, which actually lasted longer the “old” era, with the new spanning from 1999 to 2014. It’s still good, just different.
Iain M. Banks’s Culture series—the prototypical example of “fully-automated luxury gay space communism”.
Man I’m on Use of Weapons now and I fuckin love it. I want drug glands, sex change viruses, and drone friends! And I really want to play Azad…
This is the best answer because all of these other fictional places can be replicated with 100% accuracy using Culture tech.
I love the Expanse. I think it is a very realistic depiction of the future 400 years from now on the path we are on. The power struggles between the Earth and Mars and the Belters caught in the cross fire who are barely considered human. Everything is run ny corporations that only care about profits and will grind down anything that is in the path.
Though it’s definitely more fantasy, I love the Borderlands universe for the same reason. Musk is basically Handsome Jack without the charm.
Hogwarts.
A huge castle where you can learn magic, explore and live adventures with your friends? There’s a reason there was so much success for that saga.
JKR is a horrible person, but that universe is still there for people to create and share stories. There are a few fanfictions out there that are better than the last books.
!leaky_cauldron@diagonlemmy.social for people interested in that universe.
But I also want the fantastic beasts too. That book is way more interesting! Same universe but less about the school and more about finding the creatures.
The Fantastic Beasts concept was nice, but I really preferred the world building in the main HP series. To each their own!
Oh I like the whole universe, but the creature in the main guide book “fantastic beasts” were what I liked more.
I like the moving stairs in Hogwarts and the magic map they use. Never read nor do I know if there was an actual novel for Fantastic Beasts movie. Just the guide book that was a supplement to the HP series.
There was also a quidditch rule book that was cool. I wish I could play quidditch. Even without flying IRL would be a creative challenge. No golden snitch. Just hitting quaffle into small hoops might be fun while running around a field or maybe on horses IRL.
Star Trek’s depiction of the late-24th century. The height of the Federation, with nearly-ubiquitous post-scarcity democratic socialism, where anyone can do what they want, unburdened by having to work just to survive. But if you do work, you have the freedom to pursue anything, anywhere.
Unfortunately, our direction at the moment is taking us ever closer to being the Borg.
The Cosmere
Different worlds with hard-ish magic systems that are different. Yet each is a manifestation of the same underlying forces/rules across the Cosmere.
Whether it’s Stormlight, Ferruchemy, Metallurgy, etc. they’re all aspects of investiture.
Which means you get unique stories and challenges in the worlds but you also get the occasional cross of characters with one set of magic in another world of the Cosmere that has another.
And my personal favorite in the Cosmere is the Wax and Wayne series of Mistborn (books 3-7) where you have metal based magic in a Wild West like setting. So people who can manipulate metal using bullets from pistols in unique ways. Imagine all those fantasy novels with wizards… but centuries later as technology advances to the age of steam engine and firearms.
An excerpt from one of those books
Smoke curled in the air over the bandit boss’s pistol.
“Oh . . .” Wayne said softly. “You just made a bad mistake, mate. A very bad mistake.”
The boss turned away from the body, holstering his gun. “Fine,” he yelled, walking toward the door. “You can have some fun, boys. Burn it out of your blood quickly and meet me outside. Let’s—”
Everything froze. People stopped in place. The curling smoke hung motionless. Voices quieted. Whimpering halted. In a circle around Waxillium’s table, the air rippled just faintly.
Wayne stood up, shouldering his dueling canes, inspecting the room. He was placing each and every one of the bandits, Waxillium knew. Judging distances, preparing himself.
“As soon as I drop the bubble,” Wayne said, “this place is going to erupt like an ammunition store in a volcano.”
Waxillium calmly reached into his jacket and slid a hidden pistol from beneath his arm. He set it on the table. His twitch had vanished.
“Well?” Wayne asked.
“That’s a terrible metaphor. How would an ammunition store get into a volcano?”
“I don’t know. Look, are you going to fight or not?”
“I’ve tried waiting,” Waxillium said. “I gave them a chance to leave. I tried giving this up.”
“You gave it a good show, Wax.” He grimaced. “Too good a show.”
Waxillium rested his hand on the pistol. Then he picked it up. “So be it.” With his other hand, he poured out his entire pouch of steel into his wine cup, then downed it.
Wayne grinned. “You owe me a pint for lying to me, by the way.”
“Lying?”
“You said you hadn’t brought a gun.”
“I didn’t bring a gun,” Waxillium said, reaching to the small of his back and sliding a second pistol out. “You know me better than that, Wayne. I never go anywhere with only one. How much bendalloy do you have?”
“Not as much as I’d like. The stuff’s damn expensive here in town. I’ve got maybe enough for five minutes’ extra time. My metalminds are pretty much full, though. Spent a good two weeks sick in bed after you left.” That would give Wayne some healing power, should he get shot.
Waxillium took a deep breath; the coldness inside him melted away and became a flame as he burned steel that pinpointed each and every source of metal in the room.
For anybody interested in starting with a book that is in the Cosmere “Mistborn: The Final Empire” is a great starting point.
Finished the 2nd Mistborn book today. Pretty good, but I’m not dying to continue. Should I?
Personally I loved it but if you’ve finished 2 of them and it’s not resonating with you I won’t push you to read something you’re not enjoying.
I will say that I listened to them and maybe an audiobook will be more enjoyable.
But if you want to try something else in the Cosmere with a different flavor you could try one of these and not have any huge spoilers to the overall story (kind of like watching Ant-man or Black panther in the cinematic universe before any of the other films.)
Tress of the Emerald Sea (more adventure/fantasy, less magical heist and the consequences of that)
Warbreaker (more of a mystery/intrigue)
Yumi and the Nightmare painter (not sure how to describe it but people from 2 different worlds experiencing the other and learning to work with and support the others challenges, etc). This way you can see if it might just be the Mistborn era 1 books or maybe he’s not your cup of tea. I will say that Era 2 is (like I mentioned) very different in tone, etc. same world but centuries later.
If you don’t mind me asking what kind, if any, of fantasy books do you like?
I’ll keep rolling. Don’t dislike it enough to quit, but if something else comes along I’ll put it down for now. Dropped out after book 2 for a Stephen King collection I didn’t know existed. Started book 3 today.
I’m far more into science fiction than fantasy, but the original 6 Dragonlance books are my favorites. Characters you care about and seem real are essential, which I why I love King so much.
For example, I like Eland a great deal, but rolled my eyes when he magically became Mistborn. Sazed has really shaped up nicely as well. But Vin (FFS, couldn’t even remember her name, had to search) I can’t relate to. You mean this 18-yo girl out her whuppin’ ass and stacking bodies and she has zero PTSD or anything?! It’s like she has no feelings.
I should probably note that Dune is my favorite sci-fy/fantasy novel. Love me some world building.
If you like Sazed there’s some interesting twists coming for him.
For Vin you come to realize she’s less of a hero and more a pawn in various groups using her winning the genetic lottery.
Now… if you like characters that struggle with trauma. Way of Kings has a very troubled protagonist.
But yeah. As for sci-fi (especially ones that can span years) you might like Alastair Reynolds Revelation Space series.
Any good sci-fi suggestions?
I really like the world of Horizon zero dawn and forbidden west. All the ruins from buildings we can recognize (and some we cannot) are really cool. I also like how humanity had to start again without all the knowledge that was lost in the Apollo purge and how they had to adapt to a world shaped by the AI called Gaia and her robots.
In FFXI, at around level 20, you have to walk from your starter city to the main capital city, Jueno. It takes a couple of hours your first time, because all of the monsters are level 40+, and you have almost no chance of surviving an encounter,. You have to cross several very large maps in the process, usually alone or with a friend at around a similar level, and there is a lot of sneaking around you have to do in order to avoid detection. I always liked this part of the game because of the challenge it presented. When you arrive in Jueno, you finally get your chocobo license and never have to walk across those maps again, unless you really wanted to.
The updated version of the game doesn’t require traveling like this anymore. I think you can just take an airship or teleport there somehow now, but I still take the long way for nostalgia whenever creating a new character.
My favorite is Middle Earth, but my 2nd choice would be the Dresden Files. Everything from Chicago to the Feywild to Vampire parties to the realms of the dead.
High fantasy set in a post apocalyptic world. More-so when all of the technology is forgotten, or unknown, rather than when they are making use of the barely working technology.
The Shannara series is the only book/tv series I have read that fits this. I myself have set several of my RPG campaigns in a setting like this, and am working on another when the TMNT RPG is rereleased.
Into the Badlands (TV Show) is a close setting, it is feudal post apocalyptic fantasy where they have limited technology.
The closest example to this I know (and dearly love) is a proto immersive sim on the Doom engine, Strife: Quest for the Sigil. A comet strikes the planet, killing millions and casting the world within the death throes of a plague. In the ruins of the world, a religious sect worshipping a dark god called the Order stepped up and took control.
Aesthetically it’s a lot of medieval castles and towns, but with sci-fi technology crammed everywhere in a way that feels as organic as you can get on the Doom engine in 1996. Your main medieval hub town has a tavern, shopkeeps selling crossbow ammo, leather and metal armors, and you pay for your surgery with the autodoc using gold coins. Do enough missions for the resistance and the doctor even gives you health boosting implants. Your first missions see you raiding a limestone holding area to kill a captured rebel about to rat out the resistance in exchange for his freedom, using a machine gun to break rebels out of prison, then you’re off to knock out a power generation facility before raiding the sewers to find the switch for the main castle forcefield.
It’s a tad clunky in parts, the story isn’t much to write home about (but nails the presentation with a comic book art style and shockingly solid voice acting considering the era and budget), and the sewer level is an unpunished war crime, but if you can get the remastered Veteran Edition made by now veteran game remaster-ers at Nightdive Studios. Or you can find a copy of strife.wad and it’s voices file and load it into GZDoom if you wanna yar har and feedle your dee.
World of Darkness, although my only experience with it is Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines. It’s so atmospheric though, I’m so sad there’s nothing else like it. Rules are well defined, whole masquerade thing feels quite logic, characters are believable, structure of clans/families/groups and their rivalry and world views is interesting, it’s also close to our real world, but mystical… I just love it.
I liked reading all those books! Never got to play in World of Darkness though. Unless you count Exalted as part of it.
Which I did. I know they changed the lore to unconnect the two settings but I liked they were connected.
Oh wait no! I played one session of Werewolf. I was a hacker wolf. I had a hacker spirit.
Pretty sure there’s a werewolf and magic ttrpg set in the same universe with similar play rules
I’m aware of Werewolf PC game, which is kind of pretty bad :-(
Sadly I have nobody to play TTRPG with.
As a kid I loved the realm of Dinotopia. Something about the art style fascinated me as a youngster
Gurney is a master of his craft, I couldn’t blame you for liking his art. I like it too
Dungeon-diving and katabasis in general. Roguelikes are clutch for this reason, but it’s also why I fell in love with the Elder Scrolls franchise, especially Morrowind; and why Fallout 3 was the best one — crawling through the DC Metro. And why the World Adventures expansion to Sims 3 blew me away. Obviously Terraria, Minecraft, and Core Keeper are all favorites as well.
In literature, myths like Orpheus and Eurydice or the tale of Persephone and Demeter hold a special place. Jules Verne rocked it with Journey to the Center of the Earth but also 20,000 Leagues under the Sea. Conan Doyle is known best for Sherlock Holmes but his “The Lost World” is my favorite. And yes, I’m reading Dungeon Crawler Carl right now and it’s as good as advertised.
For movies, ones based on the above books are great. The Core kinda sucked, though.
Shadowrun. It’s horrific and dehumanizing and dated. But it’s perfect.
Warhammer 40k, pre 8th edition. It’s a massively deep setting full of stories that are told by unreliable narrators.
