The new law that bans gender-affirming care for minors also mandates that adult patients seeking trans health care sign an informed consent form. It also requires a physician to oversee any health care related to transitioning, and for people to see that doctor in person. Those rules have proven particularly onerous because many people received care from nurse practitioners and used telehealth. The law also made it a crime to violate the new requirements.
Another new law that allows doctors and pharmacists to refuse to treat transgender people further limits their options.
Form the powerhouse that brought you such groovy hits like, “Don’t Tread on Me” and “Small Goverment Now!” comes a new hip tune by the GOPissfarts:
“We Are Slackjawed Hypocrites.”
Enjoy their olympic-level feat of mental gymnastics as they spew the barely coherent rhetoric-laced psychobabble of meaningless nonsense while simultaneously trying to justify how “iTs diFfErEnT wHeN iTs aBoUt tEh gAyS*™”
it’s only hypocrisy if you take the most generous possible interpretation of the things the right-wingers say, not what they so obviously mean
it’s always been very clear all along that “don’t tread on me” doesn’t mean the same thing as “don’t tread on anybody”. they want some people to be firmly tread upon, and others not to be.
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Modern psychiatric science has determined that, for many people who do not feel comfortable in their assigned birth gender, transitioning is the most mentally healthy thing to do.
It is literally stopping suicides. When you let an adolescent transition, their risk of suicide drops 73%.
Here’s the problem- you want them to feel comfortable in their own bodies. They don’t and never will. Same with people who get nose jobs or breast augmentation or any other form of plastic surgery. And plenty of trans people never even have surgery. They can “detransition” any time they like.
As for why it’s “normalized?” Maybe because people are more compassionate than you are these days?
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They have 22 upvotes, you have 3. You are simply incorrect.
That’s a lot of flowery words for “I’m a bigot.”
Short version: you get the squicks and are uncomfy because someone else is getting medical care that is none of your fucking business, so you’re fine with shitting on the rights of fellow human beings.
How enlightened of you.
Welcome to Lemmy! What are your thoughts on Marxism?
I sadly don’t have the in depth knowledge to be able to give any sort of meaningful answer without a guiding hand, if you’re really interested in deciphering my takes on the ideal economic model. I agree with the premise that capitalism is unsustainable, I just don’t think “to each according to his needs” is necessarily the right philosophy to have when there is incentive to abuse the system. Human imperfections (namely, greed and lust and envy) have sadly shown the need for something stricter.
Ask the political compass, and economically I am as far left as can be.
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That is an awfully long winded way of saying you can’t mind your own business.
The treatment you’re talking about is conversion therapy - largely considered torture by modern standards. And what happened to the people who received that “treatment?” Statistically they probably fucking killed themselves. Which, like, I guess does solve the issue of you being uncomfortable around trans people and having to see us in public.
I’m not sure if you’re a ghoul or woefully uninformed. I’d suggest reading the medical literature on trans people. Nearly every psychiatric and pediatric organization of note agrees that supporting their transition leads to better healthcare outcomes for trans people by a pretty large margin. This isn’t some kind of social contagion or whatever the fuck you’re talking about. This is evidenced medical practice.
That’s not how beings trans works, and you should consider asking more of them and doctors what they think should be done instead.
But, I think you know that, or you wouldn’t be using the same language as transphobes.
“same language as transphobes”
I can’t use English now? Of course you’re welcome to label my opinion as whatever you’d like, I just don’t agree that this is transphobia.
Using the word butchering to describe gender-affirmation surgery is transphobic language. You wouldn’t use it to describe breast reduction surgery or facial reconstructive surgery, so you are, in fact, using transphobic dogwhistles.
It’s not about gays though, it’s about children thinking they are trans.
Yes, there needs to be limits on the health care that is provided to children and parental concent.
There’s nothing hypocritical about that.
What healthcare is given to children that you disagree with? Because most prominent medical organizations disagree with you about what we currently offer, which is gender-affirming care and puberty blockers. There’s nothing surgical and nothing permanent.
I’m not really sure what you find needing limits to children there? Please explain.
This is a lie.
There are permanent effects to puberty blockers and the FDA has issued serious warnings.
Why do you care more about your ideology than protecting kids?
Why can’t you just be honest?
Side effects are known to both children and parents when given because doctors are typically good at that. Of course, you don’t seem educated, so here is a list of those side effects, and a show that they are rather safe: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075
Which ones do you believe are so serious that you want children to kill themselves instead?
It really shows how ignorant, bigoted, and stupid you are.
Link to them.
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But pumping kids full of amphetamine and Wellbutrin is perfectly natural, right?
You can stop taking puberty blockers and then, unsurprisingly, go through puberty with very minimal side effects. This has been shown through peer reviewed studies to vastly improve the well-being of trans children.
Lol did my original comment get removed?
If you stop taking them later in life you will not go through puberty. Therefore it is misleading to say there are no side effects.
The side effects are not “minimal”
They are minimal to you because you are minimising them and that is dangerous. At least be honest.
The FDA has issued warnings against them for brain swelling and severe bone density issues.
They’ve been in use since I was a child, so like 20 years ago at least, and were often used to delay puberty when it started abnormally early for a child. They’re perfectly fine.
If we want to talk specifically about the drug transphobes shit their pants over, Lupron, it has been in use since the mid-80s. And studies have shown that Lupron as well as other puberty blockers are, by and large, safe for kids. We have like 40 years of data on this.
Using them for that purpose is fine.
Using them to hold back puberty in children who believe they are trans has SEVERE medical repercussions.
That’s only possible if there’s a physiological difference between someone trans and someone who isn’t trans, that’s present without any treatment. If trans people are distinctly different physiologically with all other things equal, that confirms the need for medicine and treatment. Your argument is still defeating.
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And they would be correct to do so. Spreading misinformation in support of bigoted policy is bigotry.
Please explain why you think you know better than most medical organizations in fields of their expertise.
Most of those children KNOW they are trans. Do you have a problem with them too? Or is it just the one that think they are. Because for the ones that think they are, there’s therapy for them to get an understanding of what going on- but you conservatives are shutting that down.
So how about you tell me what’s to be done when that happens? What will we do about the ones that still think they’re trans when there’s nothing to help them under it?
Lastly…
What the fuck is wrong with someone being trans?
I disagree that children know they are trans.
You’re trying to equate bigotry “there must be something wrong with trans” with the idea that “children do not have enough life experience to understand complex things like sex and gender”
I don’t think children are smart enough not to shove a pencil up their nose, and you think they understand things like sex, gender expression, parenthood, and sexuality?
And you think children can decide they are trans?
No.
This kind of rhetoric has to stop.
Children cannot decide if they have gender dysphoria.
Trans adults recall being trans kids. But this is the root of most transphobia. You simply do not believe transgender people when they speak.
Keep your nose out of other people’s healthcare.
You’re right.
If you don’t think children understand things like sex or gender, then we should teach them that queer people exist, and we should probably allow them to express their gender identities however they want, because if they don’t fully understand it, giving them a safe space to try out different identities when younger so that they are in a position to make difficult decisions like identity at crucial points in their life, like the need to take puberty blockers.
That is a really progressive stance, thank you for being an ally.
I think children are smarter than people like you give them credit for, and therapy can help them figure out how they feel and allow them to make sense of it all.
Children need advocacy, not people that think they’re not smart enough to tell when they don’t feel right.
Please don’t have children, and stay away from those of others. People like you should not be weighing in on the mental health of children.
The existence of minorities conservatives want to oppress is not up for debate.
It’s about conservatives’ stated goal of eradicating trans people. A goal you’re furthering in this thread.
A parental concent, like an Aerosmith show?