• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    and that their online cult acted almost as fascist as the person they claimed they were trying to stop.

    Yeah, like how Harris fans were talking about people poisoning the blood of the country and their plans about deporting millions of people, which would require concentration camps. And then there’s the Democratic party’s genocidal persecution of queer people.

    Basically no difference at all.

    I don’t want to leave this country, but I’m so fucking glad I’ll get away from these sort of stupid lies.

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      I’m not in your country, but already have Timewarp tagged as “Trump talking point maniac” for some time. Just so you know the lies are available abroad too.

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        I know they are, but less so. Or at least hopefully less so about America. I’ll have to deal with all new lies in Britain.

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          Well Keir Starmer was one of the first to congratulate Trump on his victory before it was official, and talk about the “special relationship” between the two countries, so I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Trump also owns a golf club is Scotland, so is sure to visit and the Tories are pushing for him to be allowed to address parliament when he does, which is nice.

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            When Keir Starmer starts planning the queer genocide Trump’s people are planning, I’ll give more of a shit. Right now, I am laser-focused on protecting my child. That is my only job right now.

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              To drop all the snark: I do worry about the UK, but for sure it would be a better place to be than the US right now.

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      They were talking about their plans to deport more people, build more immigrant holding facilities, and shutting the border down. When republicans started fear mongering about the “immigrant caravan”, democrats hopped right on board.

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        Not even close to the same.

        No one is saying they were good. That’s the mistake so many people make about people who voted for Harris. Plenty of us didn’t do it because we liked Harris. We did it because we hated Trump.

        Over and over again, I said to people telling me not to vote for Harris, “which candidate should I vote for that has a legitimate chance of beating Donald Trump?” And I didn’t get an answer.

        Then, when Indiana finalized it’s ballot, there were four names on it and write-ins were not allowed: Harris, Trump, Kennedy and Oliver. Again, I asked who I should vote for multiple times. No answer. The closest I got was a very confused person who told me I shouldn’t vote for any of them as I did a process of elimination while simultaneously saying I shouldn’t abstain.

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          Good lord you’re prolific on here. Im pretty sure youve argued with me against progressive parties before and all of this is extreme revisionism. But its too far buried.

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            I’m not sure how that changes the fact that I asked and asked and I never got an answer for who I should vote for.

            Even now, you’re not saying who I should have voted for.

            That is not how anyone wins elections.

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              I think you are completely lying. I was on here a lot promoting Stein, and getting extremely opposed by you and everyone else. Fuck off with this “i just wanted an answer” innocent BS

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                I’m not lying at all.

                I literally could not vote for Stein. Did you not read what I wrote? Do I need to show you the Indiana ballot and prove it to you?

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                  Oh im well aware, of the democratic campaign against ballot access and write-in permission for the green party. And you are too, and I think you participated in it. You didnt just recently show up, youve been on here the whole election cycle. Before primaries, before these decisions were made, fighting against any alternative to democrats.

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                    I didn’t fight anything.

                    Again, I asked over and over who I should vote for that had a good chance of beating Trump. That was my number one reason for voting.

                    I did not get an answer except one guy who said Cornell West, which is laughably wrong. I apparently didn’t ask you if you would have said Jill Stein because that has been laughably wrong multiple times now.

                    I can’t help it if people can’t get their act together and give me a name. I’m not going to pick one out of a hat.

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      It doesn’t matter what country you go as long as it is a two party corporatocracy and the “left” is parading around with war-mongering neocons, supporting genocide, censoring and astroturfing social media for people point it out, etc… then you’ll get the same result.

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        Oh that’s fine. It’s a three party corporatocracy in England. Plus the corporatocracies in other parts of Britain.

        But they know what fascism is and they know that what Harris’ supporters wanted wasn’t fascism. So I’m happy to be going there.

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          I’m a progressive that is against fascism and genocide, but the number of Democrats that censored me and called me a fascist has me convinced that many of them are perfectly content with fascism as long as it is their fascism.

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            What, exactly, is “their fascism?”

            “Censoring” you on a non-government website has nothing to do with fascism.

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              Censoring people, especially when they’re telling the truth, so you can control the narrative through gaslighting and lies is pretty fascist in my book.

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                  You don’t know me. There are many elements of fascism. Several things in that link you just posted describe the Democrat party.

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                    True. I don’t know you. However, I do know you didn’t live through Mussolini’s Italy unless you are an extremely old man.

                    Umberto Eco did. He experienced fascism directly. You’re now acting like you know about it better than he did. That’s quite silly.