• cryball
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    11 months ago

    Am I reading the graphs right if I see the main problem being private yachts and flying? Ofc cars are also included in the transport emissions, but unless they make up the majority of the emissions, the effect of cutting out some of the flights would reduce emissions by a lot.

    Seems like a reasonably easy problem to fix, if one was to implement some type of “carbon tax” that targeted at private boats and planes.

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      11 months ago

      10% of the world is eight hundred million people, so it definitely can’t all be private jets and yachts. That’s the entire population of the EU and US added together. That’s not to suggest that yachts or private planes should be off the hook, of course, as the previous chart does show that they’re utterly awful. It just means that there’s too many people included in “10% of the world” for it to be the only part

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        11 months ago

        I agree. That just something that stood out to me about the graphs. The majority of the emissions of the very richest people seem to be from luxury type of travel.

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      11 months ago

      Did not rtfa, but I would guess private jets.almost exclusively. Air travel even in a traditional passenger jet is incredibly carbon intense, even splitting the emissions by 300 or so.

      So a) they travel by air far more than avergae, and b) they’re doing so in private aircraft.

      But we could also rtfa.

      edit: saw the original ?toot?. there is no fa. but there was another figure that confirmed, it’s yachts. not even planes. mfing yachts. How much yachting can you possibly be doing as an individual to make that size of a carbon footprint?

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        11 months ago

        Even swapping private planes to passenger ones could save a boatload in carbon emissions. If giving up flying entirely is too much, then at least the regular option would be a lot better.

        How much yachting can you possibly be doing as an individual to make that size of a carbon footprint?

        Those are some big boats. Mr Abramovich’s boat is >160m long. Think of driving around in an apartment complex.

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      11 months ago

      Cars do make up a huge part of transport emissions. Passenger road emissions count for 45% of transport emissions, all air traffic including freight only 12%.

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      11 months ago

      No, because the sources of the emission are not included in the graphs. The graph itself shows nothing about yachts or private planes. However, I get your point and am very interested to see a more detailed breakdown of the sources of emission at each level.

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        11 months ago

        I should have probably specified which graph I was referrign to. The top of the page has a graph of billionare emissions, which are mostly from private planes and yachts. Those probably don’t make a significant share of global emissions due to there being few billionares. That does however account for most of their emissions, which are already much larger than average.

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    11 months ago

    So an article from 2018 tells me that you need $93,170USD to be in the world’s top 10%, I assume it’s morish now, but I think that puts a fair whack of westerners in the top 10%

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    11 months ago

    PULL THE CARBON FROM THE AIR AND TURN IT INTO GASOLINE. REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING. ICE AGE 2, ELECTRIC BOOGALOO