• bunnyBoy@pawb.social
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      22 days ago

      We’ve gone all the way around so now censoring a swear makes people more upset than actually saying it and I really don’t understand why.

      Year 2000

      Say ‘fuck’

      People get irrationally mad

      Year 2024

      Say ‘fxck’

      People get irrationally mad

      What happened?

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        22 days ago

        The younger generations decided that being offended by swear words is fucking stupid.

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        In adult-facing parts of the internet, including here, swears are typically used for an extra bit of “oomph” to spice up a sentence or make a point clear. (I know that there’s an actual word for this but I can’t think of it currently.) It’s generally considered neutering that spice if you censor it; case in point is this meme. It just tends to look childish or dumb, especially if the word is just vaguely censored like this meme here again. At least Grawlixes (“$#@&!”) have some mystery as to the word being said.

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        22 days ago

        If you want to make a post without swear words, just do it. Using a swear word and then censoring it completely defeats the purpose

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        21 days ago

        Your comment implicates you are in favour of censoring swear words. Coukd uou enlighten us as to why?

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          21 days ago

          I just feel like people can choose for themselves. As another commenter said it takes a lot of the ‘oomph’ out of the swear which I believe does have a time and place. But many people seem to be over the top ofended if you choose to do so.

          I’m certainly not suggesting that ‘everyone needs to censor their swears, think of the women and children!’ But lemmy seems to get more angry than I would consider reasonable if someone does censor themselves.

          Best anti-censor swears argument I keep seeing is that people are doing it to be more advertiser friendly which is making the internet worse overall, and I whole heartedly agree with that, but sometimes with no other motive than I would prefer it, I like to say fxck instead of fuck.

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            21 days ago

            If you want to swear then swear. If you don’t want to for whatever reason, then use creativity to get your frustration, need of emphasis, or other emotion through. Choosing to censor yourself is just weak.

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              21 days ago

              I like your comment and I want to posit this.

              If you want to swear then swear. Cool, I agree with this as it’s following a simple ‘Do what you want’ kinda thing.

              If you don’t want to swear, don’t swear. Again sweet, do what you want.

              But what if I want to swear, but I want to censor the swear word, even superficially (replace a vowel with something else, leaving the swear entirely readable where everyone can easily tell what swear is being used)? This is where I’m seeing a ton of people suddenly not as okay with people doing what they want, and that’s what I was trying to get at with this comment chain. Why are people so upset at people censoring themselves in this way?

              And I’m not even suggesting that I do this all the time, just in some cases where I specifically want to swear, but softer. Like when I’m trying to make it abundantly clear that I’m not swearing at someone, I’m just swearing in general.

              I really hope this doesn’t come across as confrontational and I appreciate that you took the time to reply. This just really feels like something that harms no one but for some reason makes a lot of people mad.

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                But what if I want to swear, but I want to censor the swear word, even superficially (replace a vowel with something else, leaving the swear entirely readable where everyone can easily tell what swear is being used)? This is where I’m seeing a ton of people suddenly not as okay with people doing what they want, and that’s what I was trying to get at with this comment chain. Why are people so upset at people censoring themselves in this way?

                Someone else already has pointed it out under this post, but no matter, it bears repeating. The initial need to use these censored forms of swear words rises from corporate censorship, all kinds of web services have been auto moderated to remove a preset list of words, and replacing a single character might get around such a simple limitation. This is understandable, and a good way to stick it to the corporations worried about spoiling their image. (Filter lists like this are also a copout when it comes to bigotry, corporations can cheap out on moderation and pretend no one is calling anyone nasty names when those words are not allowed.)

                People tend to assimilate behavior they see every day, though, so a good chunk of the population has begun to see this kind of censorship dodging as some sort of modest or proper behavior. It never was about not offending our peers, though, so this change in internet etiquette is more succumbing to corporate brainwashing than being considerate. I’m sure there are people who do get upset from seeing crass language, but a human will have no trouble being equally offended about someone saying “F*ck cops!” rather than “Fuck cops!”. A stupid censorship filter might still be fooled, though. Using the self censored forms where there are no such filters feels like bowing to our overlords a bit too much.

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            20 days ago

            Personally, I like feck a bit more. It ain’t the spelling, it’s the intent and context.

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          It really is odd. What’s even the point? Is it some kind of “saying it without saying it” thing? It’s still explicitly saying it.

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            22 days ago

            Certain platforms will negatively impact an account based off content they find inappropriate.

            I don’t know which, because I don’t use any of those fuckin platforms.

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      22 days ago

      I’m pretty certain it’s done just to get comments like yours, the same as deliberately misspelling and rage bait. Everything for more comments, clicks, interaction etc.

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        Censoring swear words on text posts have been around long before TikTok, they just kicked it into overdrive. I really can’t think of a reason why the censored version of memes get spread more than uncensored except to think that there are a dedicated group of people who pick up memes like this and spread the censored version before the uncensored version hits.

        It makes some sort of sense for videos. TikTok and YouTube demonetized and suppress videos with swear words in them. And those platforms can make people money. I don’t see why a text post would be censored, I don’t know of many ways to make a lot of money off of reposting memes and even the few I could think of don’t really care if they’re censored.

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      20 days ago

      This is almost as bad as when we had to carpet bomb another village to a crater last week to prevent the public from finding out that …

      women have nipples too

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        21 days ago

        It literally is just peppery thousand island dressing. Also, the ingredients are on the side of the box the sauce ships in so it’s not even secret to the employees lmao

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    20 days ago

    I’ve eaten it. It’s basically a slighty jazzed-up Dave’s single burger with a sauce I’ll call “interesting” instead of having their normal ketchup/mustard/mayo (personally hate mayo on burgers). It’s tangy with a little spice/zest (cayenne?) and I didn’t think it was great. Interesting novelty, but I won’t be having it again.