• misk
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      If you have trouble extracting the meaning from this I’ll help you out.

      Many people around here hate big corpos which is very good.

      Many people around here pirate stuff. This is not great since people have to be paid for their work. There are many mitigating circumstances, like if you can’t afford it, for example. In those cases it’s quite healthy since people get exposed to culture and from pure business standpoint might still mean some sales in the future.

      Many people around here are critical of business decisions from big corporations. They’re obviously free to do that. At the same times, as long as those companies are not monopolies / oligopolies or doing anything illegal, they should be allowed to carry on.

      Many people around here expect companies to just roll over and give them stuff. And that’s just being a spoiled brat.

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        I’ve not seen many pirates say that they expect companies to roll over and give them stuff. The biggest push for piracy I’ve seen is because companies refuse to sell their products. It’s all licenses to use which can be revoked at any time. Many people aren’t interested in licenses and since there is no legal way to actually purchase most games or movies, that just leaves pirating.

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          There has never been a legal way to purchase games or movies (as an individual I mean, obviously creators can sell the rights to the entire thing to another company).

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          See how everyone agitated everyone is when Google does stuff to prevent blocking ads on YouTube. Video games are not required to live or even actively participate in society. I say, sure, go pirate it if you can’t afford it but don’t invent ideology that makes you look like an entitled child.

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            Not sure what adblocker has to do with piracy, but the right to use adblocker is an even easier argument to make. I don’t see why anyone shouldn’t be able to parse through files downloaded from an http request however they want. I doubt most people read every bit of text from every web page they visit, why make an exception for ads? That’s like feeling obligated to reading every bit of junk mail that makes it way into your mailbox after you sign up for a new credit card.

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              YouTube transcodes, stores and streams gigabytes if not terabytes of data that you’re using for free if you block ads. I consider that much more unethical than pirating from torrents or some other place because you actually cost them money. If you want to pirate YouTube content then I encourage you download it from somewhere else, it’s not like YouTube doesn’t offer ad-free experience for reasonable amount of money. It’s like everyone knows this but it’s too inconvenient for them to actually acknowledge.

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                Why do you think it is the responsibility of the user to fund youtube’s server costs? Youtube is free. If it wasn’t, it would require a login with presumably a subscription fee like Netflix or Max. Youtube’s work around is to push ads and offer a subscription for an ad free experience. They created a problem for their users, then offered a paid solution. Many people accept that mainly because they either don’t know how to block ads from their end (or cant), or like you they think they owe youtube something. There is nothing unethical about choosing what information is downloaded onto your hardrive from the web.

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                  Lol, dude. If someone opened a hotdog stand and offered free hotdogs initially it doesn’t mean they have to provide free hotdogs forever because you got used to free hotdogs.

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                    Absolutely. If they charge me money before I get that hotdog in my hand, then I’m all for it. If they try to put an ad flyer in my other hand as they give me the hotdogs, im not going to hold onto it. Alas the hotdog is already in my hand