• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    Removing legitimacy from the system itself, and forcing the DNC to appeal to the left if they wish to gain more votes, rather than allow them to get away with genocide.

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      2 hours ago

      The same DNC that blamed the left for Hillary losing and then credited centrism with Biden winning?

      Those are fine goals, but pragmatism involves addressing reality as it is, not how you would like it to be. I doubt you can achieve both removing legitimacy from the system as you see it and forcing the DNC to speak to the left simultaneously since the DNC is a part of the system that’s in place. Unfortunately the DNC appealing to the left needs to be a two way street, make the left more appealing to the DNC than the right. All those Republicans endorsing Harris is the right appealing to the DNC, the left needs to out do that effort to pull the DNC to the left. Rejecting them won’t do that, only the opposite.

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        2 hours ago

        The same DNC that blamed the left for Hillary losing and then credited centrism with Biden winning?

        Yes. They can continue to blame, but they will continue to lose.

        Those are fine goals, but pragmatism involves addressing reality as it is, not how you would like it to be. I doubt you can achieve both removing legitimacy from the system as you see it and forcing the DNC to speak to the left simultaneously since the DNC is a part of the system that’s in place. Unfortunately the DNC appealing to the left needs to be a two way street, make the left more appealing to the DNC than the right. All those Republicans endorsing Harris is the right appealing to the DNC, the left needs to out do that effort to pull the DNC to the left. Rejecting them won’t do that, only the opposite.

        This is peak liberalism, lmao. The DNC is pulling right because of their donors, if they think they can win without the left then that is their miscalculation.

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          59 minutes ago

          Lol, yes. There are metaphorical carrots pulling the DNC to the right, I think we agree there. Now if you want to be “pragmatic” about it will a metaphorical stick from the left move them more left, or more right given the way we can see they calculate?