• lud@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    This is about that stupid argument against gun regulation.

    What cops do is a different issue.

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      3 months ago

      It is, however, one of the outcomes, and is not represented. I’m not demanding it should be added, but I think it makes the “Good guy with a gun” argument even weaker.

      No fucking way I’m pulling out my gun if I think there’s a >0 possibility Police are on the scene. Now I have to not only worry about taking care of the bad guy, but also about being shot to death by police.

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        3 months ago

        How many of those 12 citizens that stopped the attacker had that happen too?

        Personally I don’t think it’s worth sacrificing the clarity of the image with even more rare specifics.

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          3 months ago

          Well out of 12, there were 4 posted when the good guy with a gun dies. That isn’t including any of the ones we don’t know about, but that would be a 33% that you would die if you are a good guy with a gun and you “save the day.”

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          3 months ago

          Man, it’s just a point of discussion. I literally said I’m not demanding it should be added.

          And, in the examples I gave, at least two of them did stop the attacker before being killed by police.

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      3 months ago

      The bottom line is, people who feel safer with a gun than with the right to see a doctor, are not mature adults with a healthy sense of rational fear.

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      2 months ago

      In Germany, where there is stricter gun control, there was an incident in which a bystander tackled the knife attacker. The police mistook the bystander as the perpetrator, and because the police were distracted, the attacker got up and stabbed two more people including one of the police officers. https://apnews.com/article/germany-mannheim-stabbing-police-officer-death-a66c14970a53464aff0c1c77a7196481

      I agree with others. The idea of “good guy with a gun will stop the bad guy with a gun” is pretty much wishful thinking if the police arrives on the scene and mistakes who. It does not matter whether there is gun control or not, the good guy could be mistaken in the midst of chaos.