• idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    Here, I fixed the title for you: “Hamas still refuses to release hostages taken in unprovoked October 7 attack despite suffering of Gaza civilian population”

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      3 months ago

      Here’s another title for you, “Israel forcefully exceeded the land given to them by UN from day 1 and has been killing children amd committing war crimes for 75 years.”

      Here’s another one, “Israel has been forcefully occupying West Bank and other land area that are legally Palestine’s from 1948 the same year Israel was created”.

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        3 months ago

        All of that is factually incorrect, the Palestinians never agreed to a state, so legally it was never theirs.

        And all the surrounding Arab countries threw a tantrum fit as soon as Israel was created, tried to destroy it, and are now crying for losing the war they started.

        Get your facts straight.

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      3 months ago

      So if a small group from a certain population does something bad then everyone of that population, including kids, deserves to get sick and starve to death? Because if that’s the case, i have bad news for you about every single human population in history :D By your logic, we should start killing all kids. It’s totally justifiable, right?

      Or did you mean to say if they’re Arab then it makes it justifiable? Because brown people aren’t real people?

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        3 months ago

        So, if a small group of terrorists decides to operate out of a civilian population to attack a sovereign nation they automatically get immunity for their action and get a free “get out of jail” card? By your logic everytime some niche group decides they don’t get what they want (however absurd their demands are), all they have to do is arm themselves and operate from within a civilian population to automatically get support for their efforts, right?

        Arab people aren’t real people? Tell that to the 20% Arab civilans in Israel. You obviously know shit about this conflict.

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      3 months ago

      The only one killing hostages, bombing water utilities, bombing schools, invading hospitals, and constantly changing the deal for peace is Israel.

      • idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        You should ask Hamas why they are stealing the Palestinian people’s aid to fight their illegal war

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            3 months ago

            There are humanitarian zones for the civilians with more than enough water.

            The situation there is shitty, but to the blame of all the suffering on Israel alone is just plain wrong.

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              3 months ago

              Did you read the article? Among many other points:

              Around 70% of all water and sanitation facilities in Gaza have been destroyed or damaged, the WASH Cluster, a United Nations-led group that coordinates humanitarian efforts for water, sanitation and hygiene, said on July 24, citing satellite analysis from the UN Satellite Centre.

              And look at the headline. If there was “more than enough” generally, why would anyone do that?

              The situation there is shitty, but to the blame of all the suffering on Israel alone is just plain wrong.

              I didn’t do that. It’s just mainly their fault

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      3 months ago

      and that completely justifies any and all warcrimes against civilians? Even if they were doing the same to the other side it still wouldnt justify this.

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          3 months ago

          So killing and torturing civilians is ok in your book no matter what? Because that was what i have issue with in this matter.

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              I said: “and that completely justifies any and all warcrimes against civilians?” and your response was: “That justifies war, yes. War sucks and people get killed. Now grow up.”

              So did you mean that warcrimes are inherently part of war and something that should just be accepted or what did you mean? Or did you mean it just shouldnt be discussed or be outraged about? Without further information there is very little to go on to get any other conclusions that are not in the line of what i asked.