As a huge Alien fan, I have come away from tonight’s screening actually angry. The sets and practical effects were fantastic, but you barely saw the aliens until the climax to the mid-section of the film.

Bringing back Ian Holm as Rook took some getting used to, especially as some of those shots were off. It seemed to get better as the film progressed. I already have a theory on that one. The credits listed the crew who worked on the Rook animatronic. I wonder if they were displeased with the result and used CGI to cover the face? (Maybe I’m just too angry at the moment 😆)

The visual and audio Easter eggs were annoying, especially when Andy repeated Ripley’s line. My audience laughed, and I was just facepalming by this point.

I think what finally broke the camel’s back was the third act, which links the film to Covenant and Prometheus. I didn’t like those films as hey try to explain the alien’s origins, and now we have to have a fight with a creature that was giving me Alien:Resurrection newborn vibes. Is this Ridley sticking his oar in, as it is his creation?

I’m just so disappointed. After seeing the first two trailers, I thought we were getting something that was going to be really special, a return to form.

Ugh!

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukM
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    I thought it did a lot of things right: it showed the ordinary lives of people struggling to get by in an already dystopian setting before they lob monsters into the mix, it looked fantastic (possibly the best looking Alien film yet and I’m glad I went to the iSense screening) and the design work was top drawer.

    And yet… it feels like someone somewhere in the process lost confidence in the project. I’d be interested to know more about the development of the film as it feels like there’s a bold, innovative story lurking somewhere in the heart if this but some studio executive felt there weren’t enough Easter eggs to keep the diehard fans happy (I count myself amongst them) and gave thr script to his 14 year-old son to scribble fanboy notes into the margins. It might not have happened like that but I hate to think that an adult professional filmmaker thought it was a good idea to sprinkle in the kind of heavy-handed references to previous films that would be embarrassing if you read it in fan-fiction.

    That’s not to say I hated it, I’d rank it as the fourth, possibly even third, best Alien movie although that might be damning it with faint praise - the things I liked about it, I liked a lot and they made-up the bulk of the movie. Unfortunately, it’s chance at greatness was sabotaged by some very poor decision-making when it came down to a handful of scenes. I’d definitely like to see Alvarez get another shot at something in this fictional universe as, if nothing else, they’ve scraped the barrel empty when it comes to iconic scenes and lines from the first two films. I hope.

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    I loved the film because it’s a fun time. I’m not really the type of person to get upset over light references and knew when I saw it that people like you would hate it. And frankly the 3rd act was the creepiest and best of the film and knew purists would hate that too. It’s unfortunate because it’s a really well done film

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      Light references can be fun but this movie was nearly fourth-wall breaking with how hard they were winking at the audience. When the character itself doesn’t even have a reason or know why they’re saying the line, just because it’s a reference, it begins to feel egregious and kinda icky. Tone helps, stuff like Deadpool can get away with it obviously but I have a hard time giving this one a pass.

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      I’m personally not hating it but I thought all the homages to early films were unnecessary and stopped the film from achieving true greatness.

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    I just got back from the theater and thought it was a lot of fun! Maybe it helps that I haven’t seen Prometheus or Covenant? Or Aliens 2? So some of the references went over my head. The slow ramp up also reminded of the first Aliens movie, but once the action started it kept up pretty nonstop.

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    Right there with you! Rooks teletubby level CGI mouth was an immediate immersion breaker. When i heard this movie was taking place between Alien and Aliens, I was really hoping we’d see the story of the how the colony on LV-426 finally came across the eggs and got destroyed. Instead it feels like i got a slightly different version of the first movie with a bigger budget and the same ending.

    Further, i hate how she was able to kill the gravity and smoke a colony worth of xenomorphs. Forget that a single xenomorph has presented huge problems for people in other movies, but why do they all the sudden forget they were clinging to walls and that they have prehensile tails when the gravity runs off? Ruined how scary they were supposed to be.

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    Kind of late, since i just came around to seeing it. Some thoughts:

    • I really liked the visuals and i’m glad i got to see it in the cinema on a really good screen, so more or less the best possible experience. But i agree that the Rook animatronic looked a bit off (i’d have to rewatch it again).

    • As someone else already mentioned i also liked the dystopian setting of the first act.

    • I liked that they were leaning more into the horror, rather than action genre. But imo unlike the first Alien movie it had a few too many jump scares and overused the xenomorphs. Where the original was able to build tension with what you can’t see, here you had a whole pack of them. And somehow they get mowed down way too easily.

    • Agreed that there were too many callbacks and easter eggs, rather than letting the movie stand on its own. Especially the Ripley line was just too obvious and imo breaks the immersion into the movie.

    • Not a huge fan of the third act

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    4 months ago

    Question. Who keeps unpinning this thread? Other recent film discussions are still pinned and Romulus only opened a few days ago.

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      Hello,

      I had a look at the modlog, seems like no one is unpinning it. I suspect an issue with post pinning not federating properly if done by non-local mods, which is why I always try to do this with my lemm.ee account.

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    I thought they should have ended it without the baby.

    I thought it was very OK. It reminded me of someone who watched a few alien movies and thought they would take bits of each to build their own without any real thought.

    I am a huge fan of the first two.

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    No offense to the mod but going to totally ignore this until I download it at home.

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      Dude, I don’t know how to tell you this… But I think you failed your goal already.