No joke here. I just think stuff like this is interesting.

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    Oh yeah so it’s not like a nationwide thing that constantly goes on in every single city and state in America or anything.

    Yeah, you’re right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Beauty_pageants_in_the_United_States – Here’s all of them. They fit on a single page. Most of them stopped completely after the pandemic. They aren’t something watched by millions on TV, or attended in droves; so in comparison – yeah. Across the whole of the USA; they’re popular in some deep red states – Kentucky and the like, and like 2 companies try to push them; but they are largely a BLIP in America’s cultural significance.

    Meanwhile, in easily half of this seasons Anime; I could show you bits where they’re pushing incest, or sexualizing minors. There is a HUGE difference in the acceptability of that shit when it comes to Japan. They’re moving in the right direction, and curtailing it - but it doesn’t even compare.

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      (adding to your point) By the names alone, the vast majority of those are for adults. So not only are they wrong about the popularity of pageants, they’re wrong to imply pageants are an example the US sexualizing adolescents

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      That is not even close to all of them. Every county in every state has a Miss ___ County which go on to the state fair to be the Miss for the whole state. They are often teenagers. There is also usually a “Junior Miss” category for younger teens or even pre-teens.

      Where I live, there is a county pageant and a city pageant. Neither are on that page.

      Believe it or not, Wikipedia lists are not necessarily comprehensive.

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        Every county in every state has a Miss ___ County which go on to the state fair to be the Miss for the whole state.

        This shit stopped ages ago. Dunno what bumfuck state you live in that still does these, but it’s not as widespread as you purport.

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          That is just a lie. And no matter what “bumfuck” state I live in, it means that there are dozens of beauty contests that are not listed on Wikipedia.

          Here are several examples of states which do this, none of which I live in:

          https://www.wilsoncountytnstatefair.com/p/competitions-exhibits/wilson-county-residents/pageants/fairest-of-the-fair

          https://waynecountyfair-wv.com/pageant/

          https://www.buttecountyfair.org/fair-2024/miss-butte-county

          https://waynecountyfair.org/pageant-history/

          But sure, California and New York are definitely “bumfuck” states.

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            Literally every place you linked, is out in the middle of countryville, nowhere (pop < 5k). Just because some small town of hillbillys are doing it, does not mean it is popular or widespread.

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              One of them is literally a link to the state fair. You clearly didn’t even look.

              You’re also so busy being a snob that you haven’t actually shown any evidence of this beyond “they’re not listed on Wikipedia” as if that’s some sort of proof. Considering I showed you four examples not listed on Wikipedia, including one for a state with a population of 7 million people, you’re simply wrong.

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                If this doesn’t convince you, nothing will: https://i.imgur.com/nf8QKhR.png

                EXISTING does not mean popularity. Popularity, means a majority of people participate, watch, or enjoy said thing.

                Beauty Pageants are a NICHE. Most people don’t give a flying fuck about them. They are not a common pass-time of the American consumer.

                Even better – here’s a nice COMPARISON to the search term for “Grill”; a nice neutral term that should show you: https://i.imgur.com/b1dL7mv.png

                Holy fuck - It should not be this difficult to get such a simple fucking concept through your thick skull.

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                  Me:

                  Every county in every state has a Miss ___ County which go on to the state fair to be the Miss for the whole state.

                  You:

                  This shit stopped ages ago. Dunno what bumfuck state you live in that still does these, but it’s not as widespread as you purport.

                  You can insult me all you like, but you were still wrong.

                  But do tell me what enlightened place you live in that has no local beauty contest. I sincerely doubt where you live doesn’t have one.

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                    I just picked a county in my state; Taylor, Florida - they don’t have beauty pageants. There.

                    Just from a random pick, I’ve managed to find one. You claim “every county in every state”… well, there’s a state, and a county…and I didn’t even try.

                    Go ahead. Dig those heels in. Get even more pedantic about previous conversation. Where are you gonna move the goalposts this time, big guy?