There are so many comments on the US election from people who have zero participation in it.
By itself that’s fine, but point it out please. “I’m not a US voter, but” or something. I get these bizarre takes that make sense only after realizing the commenter isn’t familiar with US elections - which is good news. Because what I’m used to are bizarre takes from people who are (or should be) familiar with them.
It might be due to the fact that I mostly consume media in English, but I hear more about US elections than I heard about the EU parliament elections which were last month. A lot of people are interested, and for good reasons - it’s going to influence much more than US itself. I don’t think you can go back to keeping your elections to yourself without keeping your military, pop cultural and corporate influence to yourself aswell.
No and that’s totally valid, but when I see something like “Joe Biden should do X or he’s going to lose the vote!” My immediate context fir that is that it’s a US voter saying that. So my response might be something like, “you moron, he obviously can’t do that because of the Bollocks vs. Chowderhead decision of 1972.”
BUT - If I were aware that they were saying that as an interested observer from another country, I could say”oh, well here it’s different because of Bollocks. See what had happened was . . .”
also, US conservatives control, instruct, guide and finantially support conservatives in europe, provide them knowhow and practices to manipulate their societies, move closer to power and manipulate laws permanently. it’s going on for years. having conservative administration in power in the US, just spreads their wings towards societies and countries around the world - rise of conservativism in EU since trump’s coming to power is significant, and those groups all use the same methods, same words and practices, spread the same fears (conservative groups of Poland, Croatia, Hungary etc, are led, instructed and finantially supported by US conservative groups). so US elections surely aren’t just a local thing. it’s very global.
This dude (Ian Miles Cheong) is not acting in good faith, has no incentive to tell you anything he doesn’t want you to hear, and in fact has an incentive to lie and cover up the truth. This is his job. He’s not going to play nice.
I wish the rest of the world could just ignore your spectacular brand of stupidity but unfortunately things that happen in the US affect the rest of the world. Would be quite happy if that were not the case, but you lot tend to get the rest of the West embroiled in stupid wars.
When candidates start attempting to changed the governmental system by force, with violence… A death… And still have the idiotic in the country support him… it forces us to take note.
I would argue the same would be true if someone like this existed in British politics.
I can’t vote (green card) but it does affect me (permenant resident) I shouldn’t have to declare that in every conversation. It’s a bit “papers, bitte”
Yeah I get it, as someone living in America, fair enough, you shouldn’t have to qualify it.
It’s not a great solution. There’s just no way to tell and after getting into minutiae with people, who don’t live here and can’t vote, enough times, it seems like we could avoid some miscommunication that way.
I’m not from the US, nor can I vote there. Unfortunately, since I’m in Canada, I’m very very familiar with your voting system. My knowledge of it is basically on par with my own.
I have lots of opinions on what you guys are doing and I’m desperately hoping that the majority of voters are voting the less crazy person into office.
As it stands, I don’t even want to visit the USA because there’s so much going on.
There are so many comments on the US election from people who have zero participation in it.
By itself that’s fine, but point it out please. “I’m not a US voter, but” or something. I get these bizarre takes that make sense only after realizing the commenter isn’t familiar with US elections - which is good news. Because what I’m used to are bizarre takes from people who are (or should be) familiar with them.
I’m not from the USA but will be the first to call out idiots trying to convince people not to vote in the US election!
Thank you for your service 🫡
It might be due to the fact that I mostly consume media in English, but I hear more about US elections than I heard about the EU parliament elections which were last month. A lot of people are interested, and for good reasons - it’s going to influence much more than US itself. I don’t think you can go back to keeping your elections to yourself without keeping your military, pop cultural and corporate influence to yourself aswell.
No and that’s totally valid, but when I see something like “Joe Biden should do X or he’s going to lose the vote!” My immediate context fir that is that it’s a US voter saying that. So my response might be something like, “you moron, he obviously can’t do that because of the Bollocks vs. Chowderhead decision of 1972.”
BUT - If I were aware that they were saying that as an interested observer from another country, I could say”oh, well here it’s different because of Bollocks. See what had happened was . . .”
It’s just a fundamentally different conversation.
As a non-american, I’d tune out a lot more of us politics if the US wasn’t the world’s largest military, and a major nuclear power.
also, US conservatives control, instruct, guide and finantially support conservatives in europe, provide them knowhow and practices to manipulate their societies, move closer to power and manipulate laws permanently. it’s going on for years. having conservative administration in power in the US, just spreads their wings towards societies and countries around the world - rise of conservativism in EU since trump’s coming to power is significant, and those groups all use the same methods, same words and practices, spread the same fears (conservative groups of Poland, Croatia, Hungary etc, are led, instructed and finantially supported by US conservative groups). so US elections surely aren’t just a local thing. it’s very global.
Well said…
If people post on international forums, internationals will respond.
And I’m all for it. But this tweet is illustrative of the issues in not knowing that. Put it up front, is all I’m saying.
Otherwise, it’s just confusing and sometimes that’s a very bad thing.
This dude (Ian Miles Cheong) is not acting in good faith, has no incentive to tell you anything he doesn’t want you to hear, and in fact has an incentive to lie and cover up the truth. This is his job. He’s not going to play nice.
Right, another reason it’s problematic
My only complaint is when they’re commenting as if they were citizens. I doubt it’s intentional but I’ve noticed it a few times now.
It’s very intentional
I wish the rest of the world could just ignore your spectacular brand of stupidity but unfortunately things that happen in the US affect the rest of the world. Would be quite happy if that were not the case, but you lot tend to get the rest of the West embroiled in stupid wars.
When candidates start attempting to changed the governmental system by force, with violence… A death… And still have the idiotic in the country support him… it forces us to take note.
I would argue the same would be true if someone like this existed in British politics.
People like that do exist in British politics and some morons even vote for them. Not in the numbers that Trump gets.
I can’t vote (green card) but it does affect me (permenant resident) I shouldn’t have to declare that in every conversation. It’s a bit “papers, bitte”
Yeah I get it, as someone living in America, fair enough, you shouldn’t have to qualify it.
It’s not a great solution. There’s just no way to tell and after getting into minutiae with people, who don’t live here and can’t vote, enough times, it seems like we could avoid some miscommunication that way.
I’m not from the US, nor can I vote there. Unfortunately, since I’m in Canada, I’m very very familiar with your voting system. My knowledge of it is basically on par with my own.
I have lots of opinions on what you guys are doing and I’m desperately hoping that the majority of voters are voting the less crazy person into office.
As it stands, I don’t even want to visit the USA because there’s so much going on.
Canadian here seconding this opinion.
I don’t make a point of pointing out I’m not American, but I figure my instance gets it across
I know California gets a lot of shit, but it isn’t actually a different country.
/jk
Pssst…not all lemmy clients show your instance by default. For instance Voyager. I had to click through your username to see the .ca.
Yeah it makes complete sense. They aren’t arguing one side over the other…
They are arguing the simple principle of whether Americans should vote for a king who tried to take powers or not.
It’s relevant to the lives of the world sine the moment so much evidence has been proved against trump.