• Chronographs@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      She could have also had the child outside of a hospital and never told the government instead of throwing it away. Equally stupid though

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        More stupid because the mother or child could have died without immediate medical attention if something had gone wrong.

        Plenty of hospitals will accommodate something akin to a home birth setup where a woman can choose to give birth without any painkillers or an episiotomy and will even often allow midwives and doulas to attend. They just make sure the woman is in an environment where both her or her baby’s lives could potentially be saved in the event of something catastrophic.

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          Yeah my wife gave birth at a place like that, had midwives and nurses but was more of a home feeling setup, worked with the hospital and a fire department was right next door with an ambulance in case anything went wrong. They also didn’t allow any high risk pregnancies. I felt like it was a great compromise and my wife loved it. It’s totally doable in a safe way if you can find an above board place.

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            Are you talking about a birth center?

            My oldest was born in a hospital, but it was such an awful experience, my second was born in a birthing center. So much better on so many levels.

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              Yeah it was a birthing center.

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              A birthing center is also a far safer alternative to a home birth. Probably just as safe as a hospital, if not safer due to the staff being more specialized (I’m not sure which has a better safety record in that regard). The point is, medical professionals need to be around just in case.

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          I read an autobiography years ago about a girl in the US who had grown up in fairly extreme poverty. She ended up going on to great things. I unfortunately can’t remember the name of the book but it was a really good read.

          Anyway, one of the things that stuck with me was that home births with no hospital intervention were fairly common mostly because of cost but (and my memory on this is hazy) I think also this kind of “avoid the government” basis. They had midwives / nurses come on an unofficial basis.

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      Thank you for calling me out, yes my initial comment started off a bit salty, so I edited. My bad. Whatever.

      But please provide evidence that the woman threw the paperwork away, there is absolutely no evidence of it here…

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      I also never said my paperwork was ‘lost in the mail’ as you suggested. I’m saying it took the government an entire month to issue my birth certificate.

      In the meantime, I had no paperwork for the first month of my life.

      Shit like that happens.

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        The odds of it being a literal newborn yet to be issued a birth certificate are minuscule compared to the odds of sovcits just doing the sovcit shit. “Our youngest” can mean almost any age, probably up to 10yo if I were to guess.

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          I dunno what a ‘sovcit’ is, though I did just look it up. Sounds like a buncha bullshit to me.

          I’m almost 42 years old and partly Native American. I should have more rights on this land than many other people, fuckall with that ‘sovcit’ shit.

          No, I’m not here to claim or reclaim rights of Native American land, just here to express my opinion.

          And I rightly don’t care if people like my opinions or not.

          Not mad at you or anyone else, downvote me into oblivion if you so care. Hope you and everyone else has a good day.

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            The other comments were also arguing against sovcit, in fact, a lot of this community is screenshots of FB posts about sovcit stuff, that this community makes fun of.

            I understand the point you were trying to make about it being possible they had a new born that was yet to be issued a birth certificate, and that’s definitely possible, but if a screenshot of a FB post ends up here, it may just be some unhinged sovcit stuff.

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              At least someone gets where I was coming from. I hope you have a most excellent day. 👍