“I think it’s been about two or three times in the past six months we’ve allegedly been sunk, which we have not been,” Hill told The Associated Press during a recent visit to the carrier. “It is almost comical at this point. They’re attempting to maybe inspire themselves through misinformation, but it doesn’t work on us.”

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    “I think it’s been about two or three times in the past six months we’ve allegedly been sunk, which we have not been,” Hill told The Associated Press during a recent visit to the carrier.

    That’s getting up to Enterprise numbers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CV-6)

    On three occasions during the war, the Japanese announced that she had been sunk in battle, inspiring her nickname “The Grey Ghost”.

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    That doesn’t prove anything about the Eisenhower being sunk or not. Submarines are underwater, and they can do Taco Tuesday too:

    https://www.quora.com/What-s-a-typical-meal-on-a-modern-submarine

    Taco Tuesday: Exactly what it sounds like. We had a CS (Culinary Specialist) that made some of the best Fajitas I have ever had in my life (and I was raised in West Texas by a hispanic family). All the fixings are provided as well.

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    Actually hitting a modern USN vessel with cruise missiles is like throwing a dart at a haystack and trying to hit the one needle.

    Actually hitting a modern USN Carrier with cruise missiles is like throwing a dart at a haystack guarded by the ultra rapid fire death laser 3000.

    I said it before, but I’m pretty sure they only sunk the one container ship, and even then after a week of it slowly taking on water.

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      They have no chance, it’s a lost cause. They’re tools of and for Iran. Another poster said, these groups need propaganda to sustain. If their people realized how full of shit they are on everything, they’d be strung up.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Houthis and online accounts supporting them repeatedly have alleged they hit or even sank the carrier in the Red Sea as it leads the U.S. response to the rebels’ ongoing attacks targeting both commercial vessels and warships in the crucial waterway.

    And while he shrugs off his posts, they represent the new level of information warfare the Navy is having to fight as it faces its most intense combat since World War II and tries to keep the morale of the nearly 5,000 personnel aboard the Eisenhower high and munitions ready as their deployment stretches on.

    Other than rust on its side from the hot, humid Red Sea air and water apparently leaking from a pipe in a dining room, the ship appeared no worse for wear.

    While even the secretive leader of the Houthis, Abdul Malik al-Houthi, has name-dropped the carrier in speeches while making false claims about the vessel, Hill has offered ceaselessly positive messages online about his sailors on board.

    One sailor, Lt. Joseph Hirl from Raleigh, North Carolina, wore a patch reading: “Go Navy, Beat Houthis.” While that’s a play on the classic call for the annual Army-Navy football game, the naval flight officer stressed that he knew the combat was deadly serious.

    Every leader on board the Eisenhower that the AP spoke to acknowledged the Navy was trying to use the right weapon against the Houthis, whose asymmetrical warfare sees them use far cheaper munitions.


    The original article contains 1,020 words, the summary contains 241 words. Saved 76%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    I think this article shows an interesting look at how these violent pan-Islamic nationalists use lies and propaganda to maintain their populism.

    And for good measure, here’s an example of Al Jazeera, which is Qatari state-run media repeating the Houthis false claims without note of skepticism, let alone pointing out the fact that it was completely false, which is par for the course for Al Jazeera:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/31/red-sea-tensions-yemens-houthis-attack-us-carrier-after-deadly-strikes

    I think we are seeing the death throes of these types of populist movements, such as Hamas, Boko Haram, IS, and even MAGA. The Eisenhower’s commanding officer shot the entire fake story down with one tweet showing that everyone on the Eisenhower was living it up, having Taco Tuesday, while the houthis were saying they are at the bottom of the ocean. How many times can that happen before the movement loses its popular support?

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      The Al Jazeera report that you link to only claims that Houthis launched missile and drone attacks at a US ship. It makes no claim that they seriously damaged or sunk a US ship. Here is a BBC/MSN report that describes similar things. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c800j14y38xo?xtor=AL-72-[partner]-[microsoft]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi] what exactly are you claiming is false in the Al Jazeera report? Both reports also describe US actions against Houthis targets, which would be a strange thing to do if the Houthis aren’t in fact doing something (even if it is a very ineffective something).

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        Person above you either didn’t read the article they posted or is hoping other people won’t. Not that Al Jazeera doesn’t have its own biases and blind spots like any news source, but I don’t see anything incorrect in that article. They even put quotes around the word attack and then say only that Houthis claim they attacked them. It only mentions a sunk ship when it talks about the Houthi attacks on merchant vessels, which is true, they they sunk a Belize flagged ship containing fertilizer and fuel that was on its way from the UAE to Bulgaria.

        https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthi-rebels-rubymar-sinks-red-sea-fb64a490ce935756337ee3606e15d093

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        Al Jazeera is both:

        • Sponsored by the Qatari government
        • The best journalism in the Middle East

        Don’t trust their reporting on Qatar, but everything else is pretty good. While other networks rely on second hand info, Al Jazeera will send reporters into literal war zones to find out the truth.

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          It’s not even actual journalism. The report rumors and gossip as fact, constantly. It’s a glorified anti western tabloid. It’s radical panislamist fan fiction, as in this example: there was no attack on the USS Eisenhower.

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      These far-right and otherwise insane ideologies need misinformation to work. Even with the ability to spread it being greater these days it’s also way to easy to doublecheck them with a solid level of confidence and they struggle to be consistent even amongst themselves. They still have power and we can’t get complacent but it sure could be a lot worse.

      And then there’s Germany fielding a Nazi party and actually getting some traction lol

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      How many times does Trump need to blatantly lie to people’s faces to convince people he’s a liar? How many porn stars does he need to bang before Christians stop thinking he was sent by Jesus?

      The death throes of these regimes will only come when every child is taught critical thinking and can no longer be turned against each other through baseless/lazy manipulation tactics, but even education itself is under attack so none of this is a given.