I didn’t die though, because I got vaccinated. Why brush off the fact that China is a lying, information-suppressing authoritarian state? Based on the idea they maybe had a lower infection rate
We got lucky with COVID being something we can make a vaccine for - it could have been a lot worse!
I brush off China lying because they definitely, unarguably had a lower infection rate. We know the surplus death rate because they can’t hide that, and that’s literally the worst the COVID death rate could possibly be. In all likelihood there are other factors that account for surplus deaths during the pandemic, so assuming literally every excess death was from COVID isn’t even correct! The numbers are in fact probably better than my rough math, because I was just assuming the worst case scenario for the sake of argument.
China’s COVID response was absolutely stellar and saved millions of lives and they should be praised for it. They probably lied (to maintain social cohesion and keep up public support for the extremely effective zero COVID policy) and I don’t agree with that choice, but I recognize that they blew everyone else on the fucking planet out of the water even though they were literally ground zero! That’s amazing!
Meanwhile, the West sacrificed us all for the money line and also lied. Objectively worse.
Even if you don’t think China is good, it’s pretty clear they are a lesser evil.
I’m pretty sure a total lockdown in the US would’ve failed because it’s not authoritarian. Pandemics are an area where authoritarian nations have the opportunity to shine because it all comes from the top. Don’t like what the government says? Too bad, you’re going on lockdown. I have yet to be convinced, however, that this type of consolidated power is ideal in most conditions.
That’s certainly quantifiable if everyone tells the truth. I wish you luck moving there if you don’t live there already, but I’ll probably stay put for now.
Better to die free than be lied to, right? 😂
And America definitely hasn’t lied at all about its COVID numbers! 🤣
I didn’t die though, because I got vaccinated. Why brush off the fact that China is a lying, information-suppressing authoritarian state? Based on the idea they maybe had a lower infection rate
We got lucky with COVID being something we can make a vaccine for - it could have been a lot worse!
I brush off China lying because they definitely, unarguably had a lower infection rate. We know the surplus death rate because they can’t hide that, and that’s literally the worst the COVID death rate could possibly be. In all likelihood there are other factors that account for surplus deaths during the pandemic, so assuming literally every excess death was from COVID isn’t even correct! The numbers are in fact probably better than my rough math, because I was just assuming the worst case scenario for the sake of argument.
China’s COVID response was absolutely stellar and saved millions of lives and they should be praised for it. They probably lied (to maintain social cohesion and keep up public support for the extremely effective zero COVID policy) and I don’t agree with that choice, but I recognize that they blew everyone else on the fucking planet out of the water even though they were literally ground zero! That’s amazing!
Meanwhile, the West sacrificed us all for the money line and also lied. Objectively worse.
Even if you don’t think China is good, it’s pretty clear they are a lesser evil.
I’m pretty sure a total lockdown in the US would’ve failed because it’s not authoritarian. Pandemics are an area where authoritarian nations have the opportunity to shine because it all comes from the top. Don’t like what the government says? Too bad, you’re going on lockdown. I have yet to be convinced, however, that this type of consolidated power is ideal in most conditions.
I guess we’ll see if China’s life expectancy stays above America’s over the next few years.
2020 to 2021 to 2022, it’s gone down every year. Will this year buck the trend? I really hope so! I doubt it.
That’s certainly quantifiable if everyone tells the truth. I wish you luck moving there if you don’t live there already, but I’ll probably stay put for now.