• Soup@lemmy.world
    51·
    6 months ago

    “Almost a third on rent”? What utopia do they live in?

    Right now a simple 2bd apartment averages $2450 where I live and this was always know as the cheap Canadian city! Bonkers!

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
      4·
      6 months ago

      here in sweden most cities have some amount of municipal housing, where you can get a family-sized apartment for like $1200 equivalent, or a studio apartment for $300-400

      it’s almost like socialism works, and it works so fucking well that they have to legally restrict the municipal housing from being more than like 17% of the housing supply lest it nuke all private landlords from orbit

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        5·
        6 months ago

        Worse, actually. My net at $58,000CAD got me $3,600/mo. If I wanted a simple 2bd today it would be now two thirds of my take-home. The friend who rents my guest bedroom has become my roommate over the last few months as they’ve been unable to find a place that’s even vaguely reasonable.

        • Tja@programming.dev
          210·
          6 months ago

          Well, two salaries of 58k would make it one third total income (like in the comic).

          Otherwise, why would a single person need a two bedroom apartment?

          • Soup@lemmy.world
            142·
            6 months ago

            Maybe for some fucking dignity? Maybe because people deserve some life alongside their survival?

            A working person who’s in their career should be able to afford more than a one bedroom apartment. That second room could be for hobbies, a work-from-home office, a guest bedroom, a library, whatever. And that’s just in an ideal situation but what if they’re a single parent(could be for any reason including something completely unavoidable like their spouse passing away for some reason) who needs a room for their child? And while I’m on about it, those people are a couple who would share a bedroom so then what? Pretty much every single person needs personal space away from their partner from time to time and the shared bedroom ain’t it.

            Rich people don’t need boats or luxury vehicles yet they always seem to find excuses for that but having a 2bd apartment is considered irresponsible spending and that’s horseshit. It’s not the employee’s job to debase themselves in every aspect of their lives so someone who clearly can’t manage a business effectively can pretend they have any skill in doing so.

            • Tja@programming.dev
              310·
              6 months ago

              I lived with my parents, then I lived in a shared apartment, then I lived in a studio apartment, I had dignity and life. You don’t need 3 rooms per person, you don’t need a yacht, you don’t need servants. If you can afford them good for you, but holy privilege demanding that as if it was a bare necessity.

              • Soup@lemmy.world
                111·
                6 months ago

                Congrats for you. Here’s the thing, the reason we can’t all have enough to be comfortable isn’t because life is hard, it’s because the resources are kept from us by thieves we hilariously call “elites”.

                I’m sorry that I want a better life than scraping by. I’m sorry I don’t love the taste of boot the same way you do. I’m not asking for a mansion you fucking donut. I didn’t ask for servants or yachts or any of that shit. I’m asking for literally one more room and for good reasons which I have already outlined. If you can’t win the argument without completely making shit up then accept the loss and back down.

                • Tja@programming.dev
                  38·
                  6 months ago

                  Just one more room. Just one more car. Just one more servant.

                  If you want to live in luxury, earn it.

  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
    10·
    6 months ago

    Everyone needs to read “Hell’s Angels” by Hunter Thompson.

    There’s a chapter where he lays out the economics of being a biker/hippie/artist circa 1970.

    An Angel could work for six months as a Union stevedore and make enough to hit the road for two years. A part time waitress could afford an apartment for herself and her musician boyfriend.

      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
        7·
        6 months ago

        That’s another thing I always mention.

        When Ronald Reagan took office, ‘middle class’ was defined as one Union salary job supporting a family of four, and $1 million was considered a vast fortune.

        By the end of Bush Sr’s term, ‘middle class’ was two jobs to keep the family going, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.