Completely random stoned hypothetical. Lets day im old as fuck and I decide I’m ready and done. Could I have the same postmortem autopsy done on me while I’m still alive? Like give me a ton of drugs and let me watch myself get dissected as my final moments. I understand there is a legal and possibly moral concern, but is it really ethically that bad if I also want it? Like I’m not taking myself out at my prime, I’m nearly dead anyways. Lemme see myself cut apart that’d be cool as shit, only if I couldn’t feel any pain though.
I know in Germany murder is still murder if the murdered person consented to it.
Also, an autopsy isn’t just “randomly cutting someone apart”. The point of an autopsy is to determine a person’s couse of death and doesn’t just involve cutting the dead person open. You being alive means that an autopppsy, by definition, cannot be performed on you.
What you want is someone to mutilate and kill you. I’m pretty sure you can find someone willing to do that.
Side note: I think you overestimate how long you will stay conscious when the blood starts flowing, painkillers don’t fix your brain running out of oxygen.
Wasn’t it in Germany that someone posted an ad to be eaten? Which happened
I think it was a German who wanted to “cook you” not “cook for you”. (The IT crowd)
Meiwes then ran Brandes a bath, before going to read a Star Trek book, while checking on Brandes every fifteen minutes…
Wonder which book he was reading
Umm a Star Trek book?
You dropped this, king: 🤓
With Armin Meiwes it was argued that the victim couldn’t consent to being killed because he wasn’t mentally sound. And he wasn’t mentally sound because he consented to being killed.
I could imagine that if you could convince a court that you are mentally sound beforehand, you could have someone legally murder you.
The whole eating thing is actually treated somewhat separately because that falls under disturbing the dead
So reverse catch-22?
That’s a good point. “Determining the cause of death” implies that the person is dead. It’s like braiding the hair of a bald guy.
I believe the technical term you are looking for is a “vivisection”.
And if you ask a surgeon to do it… “just to see” expect there to be some amount of shock. And maybe some very unfun drugs. Maybe a straight jacket…
Depends on the surgeon i would say. I would bet that there are other Joseph Mengele’s hiding in the world. He just needs to find some sociopath that is also a doctor.
His shock. Doc’s shock. Either way. Shock.
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I think your have a poor understanding of what occurs during an autopsy. I do commend the documentation of high thoughts and think we need a community - maybe elevated ideas?
Highdeas.
Hey! It’s already there!
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
This would be a vivisection.
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Short answer: No.
As far as I’m aware, the first step in an autopsy is to drain the body of blood before any incision is made. You’d be dead long before you got to “see your insides”.
Sever your spinal cord so your body is paralyzed. Then you won’t have to worry about pain.
This would be a wild situation though. Feels like human centipede levels of wild
Sure you can. I mean, not legally ~anywhere, but pay some sketchy dr 25k and make a world-first snuff film. I’m not sure why anyone would want to do this, and I sure don’t think it would be “cool as shit” but you probably would shit yourself. And I suspect that even if you’re real high, it would still be traumatizing for all involved
i think that if im that close to death already i would rather throw away my fear and get a lil weird for it. i don’t see why it necessarily has to be traumatizing.
I don’t see why it necessarily has to be traumatizing.
I know there’s a good chance you’re high so let’s get this straight.
A doctor will have to cut you up. There’s only 2 reasons for a doctor to go along. The first is unhealthy levels of sadism. The second is an acute need for money. No one in their right mind would go along with this. And generally cutting up a person that’s alive would be traumatizing to everyone. Just look up stories of doctors in warzones. Seeing this stuff can cause bad defense mechanisms to activate through our innate instincts and most doctors have mad PTSD if they deal with this a few times. Cutting someone up that’s alive is like that, but tuned to an extreme that even less people can bear.
“Could I have the same postmortem autopsy done on me while I’m still alive?”
That would be exploratory surgery, not an autopsy
Give yourself to science instead. Surely there are some companies hoping to try new products or experiments on live specimens.
Maybe some trippy new drug. Maybe hot dogs for fingers. Not sure how that all works.
No.
In general you cannot consent in being assassinated, and even in place where euthanasia/assisted suicide is legal, there is still a strict process to make-it cleanly rather than cutting down a person in piece
Mind you this boils down to an absurdly short list of countries who even allow euthanasia at all.
And that’s because making sure the victim consented is super scary and risky. You don’t wanna accidentally allow murder, even if it’s only for the very smart murderers who can forge documents.
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“Do no harm” is sort of their thing, even if the doctor normally works with dead people.
Dude I’ve met too many doctors to believe that anymore
I think that the Nazis or Japanese did experiments in that vain, but don’t quote me on it. They did quite a lot that makes my stomach roil. As to how far they could get, no clue.
Either way, once organs start to be removed, you won’t be around for long. Under most circumstances anyways. We do have the ability to sub in machines for failed organs, such as heart, kidneys or lungs, but I don’t know of any cases where all of them have been replaced with machines at the same time with the “patient” still awake during.
Full life support tends to be a “Buddy, your fucked!” sort of thing and if you’re not already in a coma, they will likely put you in one.
The Japanese didn’t give their victims pain relief or anesthesia.
