• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s how it works these days.

    I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people’s eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It’s the whole ‘we must be intolerant of intertolerance’ type fo thing… but they’ve twist it to ‘we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality’.

    There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.

    Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.

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      with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality

      I think I’ve spotted their issue with you.

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      My opinion on trans athletes is that I lack the qualifications to have an opinion. What happens to the human body during transition should be pretty well-documented by now, though. I’m sure if there’s any real problem, the doctors who work in gender-affirming care would be pretty vocal about it.

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          Fucking lol

          The doctors who research this stuff for a living are biased

          Science is biased

          Reality is biased

          You’re a regressive who hates that reality disagrees with you and would prefer to live in a fantasy world of your own making

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            Uh, calm down mate. Maybe you think you’re replying to somebody else? A doctor making their living from providing transgender healthcare is absolutely a biased party, as is any researcher choosing to focus on this topic. That’s reflexivity, it’s quite important to acknowledge.

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              Buddy that’s like saying you won’t listen to physicists about gravity because they’re biased

              Researching and reporting on scientific realities isn’t bias

              It’s stating the truth

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                You would definitely need to acknowledge a physicist’s bias towards the theory they have chosen to research. That’s absolutely a thing! I’m not saying anything controversial here. I don’t even like sociology very much, reflexivity is boring and over-emphasised but it’s a legitimate issue, and it’s a big issue in transgender medicine. Which people are very keen to point out when the research doesn’t agree with their own position.

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      How often did you watch women’s sports before you became aware of the controversial issue of trans women competing in them?

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      “I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports.”

      If you’re “pro-trans” then that means you believe that, for example, a trans woman is a woman, because she says she is.

      So then you don’t believe women should compete in women’s sports?

      Showing your ass there, huh?