Students should be expelled and criminaly prosecuted.

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    …and Israel should stop the genocide in Palestine.

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    It is certainly a sign of moral and cognitive backwardness in this nation that to speak out against the systematic murder of civilian noncombatants is to be called pro-hamas.

    To protest the killing of over 13,000 innocent children is to be reviled, called a criminal, and to risk arrest.

    It is also backwards that the conservative, who always seems to be on the lookout for government tyrrany, should call for the arrest of those who speak out against their own government supplying bombs that are to be dropped on innocent children.

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      It is certainly a sign of moral and cognitive backwardness in this nation that to speak out against the systematic murder of civilian noncombatants is to be called pro-hamas.

      Just like Hamas you think taking people hostage is ok and taking over buildings? Did you even read the article that explains why the police were involved?

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        No I think taking over others people’s land and buildings is wrong. Damaging or destroying other people’s buildings and keeping people captive, denying them food and medical care is wrong.

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        Protestors against the expansion of the Vietnam war into Cambodia were called “communists” “bums” and “disloyal to the United States”. Some were killed by national guardsmen, firing into the crowd of American citizens.

        Protestors against the South Africa apartied system were called “communists” “terrorists” and “thugs”. Nelson Mandela remained on US terror watch lists until 2008.

        I reject and condemn the human rights violations of the Viet Nam war, I reject and condemn the South African Apartied system and I reject and condemn the deliberate killing of unarmed civilian noncombatants of any nation.

        Call me what you will.

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    Welcome to the republican police state everyone. First it’s reproductive rights, then protest rights. What’s next?

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      The only rights conservatives want is the right to be white, christian, have a gun, and no taxes for the rich.

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      You are supporting litteal crimes. They took over the building (crime), held hostage (crime), destroyed portions of the building (crime), and refused to leave (crime).

      I mam not sure why Democrats support terrorist actions and pretend it’s protesting. You have the right to protest peacefully, but this wasn’t peaceful and took the right of others away.

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    And once again when conservatives are confronted with speech they disagree with the response is to demand their arrest.

    Almost like they don’t actually value free speech as much as they value controlling their political opponents: those demanding the emancipation of an imprisoned population being starved to death.

    It’s a big reason Trump became popular with them: he promised to lock up his political opponent.

    Just more fascist trash from people who don’t care to understand the world as it is, so they soak up right-wing propaganda telling them the scary leftists are out ruin “their” country.

    Reactionaries want to take away your freedom to stand up to political violence and collective punishment; gee, I wonder why?

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      And once again when conservatives are confronted with speech they disagree with the response is to demand their arrest.

      Arresting people who trespass to disrupt classes at a private university is going against free speech?

      Arresting people who break into buildings and refuse to let matience workers leave (kidnapping) is going against free speech?

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        Those are questions for you to answer. This community’s conservatives pay lip service to free speech in the absolute sense but abandon it when you disagree.

        If you could be honest, where do you draw the line for the expression of free speech?

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          If you could be honest, where do you draw the line for the expression of free speech? Nice strawman, but this isn’t about free speech. When is it speech to take over a building, take hostages and tear the building up?

          If you call this free speech, you must say that Jan 6th was free speech. At least Jan 6th didn’t have hostages.

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          Trespassing on private property to protest is not and should not be protected. It has nothing to do with what they are protesting.

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            Nor should destruction of property, denying other students access to the campus, breaking and entering, etc.

            NY should put their anti-mask law back on the book as well. Let the cowards show their faces.

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        Terrorists just want to terrorize.

        That is why I didn’t post anything until they grossly violated the law. I support even stupid protests, but once they turn lawless, it’s time to shut them down.

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      You call hostage-taking and destruction of property free speech? lol You are no longer trying to hide terrorism anymore.

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        I’m not going to play your stupid little game.

        We all know that you value conformity over collective action like every counterrevolutionary in history.

        It’s the whole reason you post sources conflating people protesting the university’s material support of genocide with terrorists.

        You are not making any kind of point about political freedom, or protest, or values. Here’s a hint: the students were planning on getting arrested. That’s how civil disobedience works: by making the people who hold power overreact to the collective action, thereby swaying public opinion.

        This is a clear win for the protesters, because reactionaries simply cannot help showing their asses, and they must stand against emancipations or their backwards ideology will have to shift further to accommodate the revolutionary ideas that they’re constantly opposing.

        It’s so telling that conservatives care more about “property damage” than genocide.

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          I’m not going to play your stupid little game. It is not a game; you are openly supporting a violent group who are terrorists.

          This is a clear win for the protesters, because reactionaries simply cannot help showing their asses, and they must stand against emancipations or their backwards ideology will have to shift further to accommodate the revolutionary ideas that they’re constantly opposing.

          This is a clear loss for the terrorists. They were arrested, will face criminal charges, and will most likely be expelled from school.

          It’s so telling that conservatives care more about “property damage” than genocide.

          We are against terrorism; it’s why we support Israel. I get you support children being murdered and women being raped since they are Jewish, but that is genocide, and it must stop. It is why we support the Israeli government in ending Hamas.

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            Your lies are only convincing to reactionaries who want to prevent emancipations.

            You conflate Palestine with Hamas, because you oppose the emancipation of the Palestinian people from the yoke of collective punishment and oppression just like every reactionary counterrevolution would.

            You adopt the language of emancipation to appeal to non-reactionaries, but you don’t believe or understand it. Conservatism is a cargo-cult ideology that must constantly react to the emancipatory actions of the left by taking their arguments and twisting them into a macabre parody in defense of the powerful.

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              You conflate Palestine with Hamas, because you oppose the emancipation of the Palestinian people from the yoke of collective punishment and oppression just like every reactionary counterrevolution would.

              Nothing to do with the conversation. The conversation is about terrorists taking over buildings, holding hostages, trespassing, destroying property, etc. Those are all crimes. The university was correct in asking for them to be removed and order restored.

              I will not play your game of trying to switch the topic.

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        I have no issues with protesting but I do have an issue with people breaking the law. What the "protestors’ is doing is terrorism.

        Anyone who isn’t a citizen should be deported, all students who violate the law should be expelled and criminally prosecuted.

        That is how you stop this crap.

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            Deportation, that will at least bar them from returning.

            If you think acting like a terrorist is a good thing, you are not a fit for American culture.

            Protest all you want but don’t be a terrorist.

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                Their criminal prosecution would make them eligible for deportation and ineligible to return.

                We don’t need more terrorist in the country. If you don’t support American values, then you can go back to where you came from.

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    How is this not government tyranny? How is this not a violation of freedom of speech and right to assembly? What happened to “I might not agree with what you’re saying but I’ll defend your right to say it”?

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      There is no right to assemble on some one else’s property.

      There no right to break into a building to assemble.

      There is no right to prevent matience workers from leaving the building that was just broken into.

      There is no free speech right on some one else’s property.

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        There is no right to block students from going to class.

        It is also weird they blame the Republicans when it is a liberal university in a blue state.

        Republicans have zero to do with this.