Because we’re actually biped rats?
Just kidding. Grapes have lots of tartaric acid and, accordingly to this link, tartaric acid causes kidney failure in dogs.
Then accordingly to this link only 15~20% of the tartaric acid consumed by humans is eliminated in the urine; most of it goes to the large intestine, and gets metabolised by bacteria. So I guess that, unlike dogs, we avoid the kidney failure by avoiding sending it to the kidneys.
Interesting, that makes sense, thank you. I looked this up like 3 times using google and duckduckgo and none of the results gave me a clear answer.
Doesn’t matter post it here either way we want engagement here not in Google.
I searched this through DDG, but I likely used different prompts than you:
- reason toxicity raisins dogs
- reason toxicity grapes dogs
- tartaric acid human toxicity metabolism
then parsed it into the answer I gave you.
How do I subscribe to your search engine?
If you want some tips on searching…
Split the problem into smaller parts. For example, you won’t find good results comparing grape toxicity in dogs and humans; but you might get good results for dogs alone.
Use the info from one search to fuel other searches. For example, once I found that raw grapes were also poisonous to dogs, I shifted the query from raisins to grapes - because it’s easier to find info on a fruit than on its processed form. I did this again once I discovered that tartaric acid was to blame, it allowed me to search for info specifically for humans.
Use keywords, not full sentences. All those “why”, “is”, “the” etc. only add noise, and make you land right into SEO-land.
Quotation marks and the minus sign. I did neither here, but use them deliberately, to force (quotation marks) or exclude (minus) results. The minus is specially useful against SEO.
This is the first result when I search with Kagi, so maybe you should switch your search engine. With Google’s degrading performance you hear more and more about alternative engines, for example Qwant and Metager are based in the EU and care a bit more about your privacy than their profit in comparison to Google.
“Biped Rats”
Alright, I’m stealing that.
Tartaric Acid
Source: https://www.gradyvet.com/blog/mystery-solved-why-grapes-are-toxic-to-dogs/
Only anecdotal but I grew up on a vineyard and my dogs ate grapes, raisins, sultanas all day and all have lived 11-14yo (GSP breed)
Most dogs are fine actually. A small seemingly random percentage go into kidney failure so it’s easier and more humane to just not take a chance.
In a similar vein as your dogs but in Asian countries the dogs also eat/get fed leftovers which include plenty of spices, which are also stated online as problematic for dogs.
Recent research indicates it might be differences in the grapes, not differences in the dogs. Different breeds of grapes have different levels of certain chemicals that are toxic to dogs.
Sounds like a severe peanut allergy, but for dogs.
Yep. We grew grapes too, multiple varieties. Dogs ate them and had zero ill effects. One of them even stole one of those 1 lb chocolate bars and ate it, the worst effect was a little diarrhea.
Some of these things are way overblown on the internet. OMG your St Bernard ate a grape?!? I’m sure a lot of it has to do with dog weight vs quantity consumed, so a bunch of chocolate for a Chihuahua is a different story vs a German Shepherd. I’m not suggesting it’s OK for dogs to eat these things, just exercise some judgement and call a vet, but the internet freakout is unreasonable.
I don’t know. I’ll look it up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+raisins+toxic+to+dogs+and+not+humans
What pushed you to write such stupid reply on a community where people ask about stuff?
Seriously.
Ah, they must have interpreted it as “no stupid questions allowed,” instead of “there are no stupid questions.”
“there are no stupid questions, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots.”
Not that I’m calling the OP one in particular. its not a particularly stupid question… and it’s definitely the place for it. (sometimes, I’m even one of the inquisitive idiots. Better than the morally superior idiots, like Grayatrox.)
Just to make the search results even worse.
“give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime”
Have you considered that other users also benefit from this post, who were not asking themselves this question?
Hit a man with a fish and maybe he’ll leave you alone.
Yeah, lurch.
Light a man a fire and he is warm for a night, light a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life
outta curiousity, do you do TTRPG’s? DnD?
you kinda sound like a murderhobo I know. (edit- one I like to screw with as the DM, one time i did a Starwars Homebrew. they got abducted by “the Fat Lady” at a Gamorean Experimental Opera. they thought it was a “get to know you” fluff campaign… he spent the entire real part of the campaign locked in her bedroom as she tried to seduce him. yes. hilarity ensued.)
I used to, I need to find a roll20
“tell a man to Google how to fish, and you get to be non-constructive and judgmental”