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      Unlike you though, boomers are selfish as hell. They don’t care if they drop dead tomorrow, they want to force their world on us from beyond the grave.

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        boomers are selfish as hell

        I don’t like this kind of statement.
        It’s far too general to be either true or false. Lots of zoomers and millenials are too.

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          They are the most likely to have multiple homes. They are the most likely to vote to pull up the ladders behind them. They are the most complicit. Just because later generations also have shit members doesn’t excuse 95% of boomers from being a cohort fucking the rest of us.

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            They are the most likely to have started that local city drum circle a few decades ago, the farmers market and/or co-op, they are the ones who fought for civil rights and tried to bring a better world to their children…there are shitty people all over the place some are just being born and shitty people who are a 100 years old but one thing I can guarantee is there is no completely shitt generation fucking everyone else over unless you completely ignore the good people did do.

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          Oh come on. What’s the point of having a Boogeyman you can blame all problems on if you can’t vilify an entire generation. And then complain when other people do the same about yours.

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        Most republican voters I know, boomer or otherwise, simply view voting differently than most their lefter-leaning constituents. I often hear them say that the point of voting is to simply choose what benefits you the most, and that if everyone simply chooses things that specifically align with their own wants and needs, that the biggest, most important groups will get what is needed. It’s not even that they understand that they’re being selfish by only voting in their own best interests, they just honestly believe that considering the needs of others when voting undermines its effectiveness.

        Now, it’s obvious that they’re wrong - smaller groups deserve just as much of a say as their larger counterparts, and the country benefits when they do - but they don’t think about it that way. I believe it’s also why republicans are so concerned about becoming a minority - they honestly believe that voting should specifically only benefit the largest group, and are desperately trying to maintain “their people” as the largest group.

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          I mean, you’re 99% correct imo.

          But it’s not the voting power they’re afraid of losing though.

          “We” (read, anyone even one iota to the left of what passes for American Centrism/Liberalism) doesn’t even stop to consider what “we” would do with a voting majority over the status quo voter example (Christian, White, Male) because that’s just not how “our” brains on average are structured.

          “They” would get exactly what they deserve; adequate everything and a shot at the pursuit of liberty as equitable as can be honestly delivered.

          That’s not what “they” vote for in the pursuit of maintaining their stranglehold over that teensy bit of extra power; they fear what they would vote for because their interests would see them vote the existence of the “other” away.

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            Yeah, exactly. Many republican voters think that everyone should vote for their own goals, and that the biggest group should win, so they’re terrified of not being the biggest group in any given demographic (religion, race, etc.). What they fail to realize is that most people vote for how they’d like the country itself to be run, which includes smaller groups just as much as larger ones, so losing that majority footing wouldn’t impact them very much if at all.

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              Also why this group is so angered by programs such as DEI. Equality for others come across as oppression to them.

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          This line of thinking also develops situations that are worse for the collective. Since everyone is just chasing their own interests. They’re actively making things worse by behaving like that.

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          There’s a bit more to this, in that they seem to view this whole thing as a zero-sum game, so if they’re no longer the majority group, not only do their interests not get the situation, but other groups will actively work to disadvantage them. They just can’t imagine that everyone else doesn’t think that advancing your own views and bettering your conditions means you need to tear down and destroy someone else to do so.

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      My wife and I talk a lot about how we don’t know what causes are coming down the pipeline in the next decades, so our only goal is to have ability to go “I don’t know what this is, I don’t know what the answer is, and nobody has to earn my agreement to keep me from obstructing it.”

      If we raise our kids right they’ll do the right thing. My buy in isn’t that important beyond how much they want my participation.

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    As someone not from the USA, looking at things as an external observer, it’s really weird for me to see this increasing age-related hate. Instead of focusing on removing fascists, conservatives and the ultrarich from power, you’re focusing on age as if it’s the determinant factor on someone’s character and intentions, and even promoting more age-related stigma. I even wonder if it’s some sort of coordinated mass manipulation to prevent the increasingly radicalizing people from taking out the groups in power, by letting them fight against the older ones, while they prepare younger fascists to run the place, but that would be too much of a conspirational thought. Anyway, good luck with that, let’s see how all this will develop.

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      I know that the issue is not age, but look, I’ve been waiting my whole life to see these people retire and leave jobs for my generation, and leave political office too. so for me, even though i know its not some singular solution to something, i still would just like to see the old people retire, as i have been waiting all my life for them to do so.

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      It’s not the age itself at all, look at Bernie Sanders, still sharp and still popular. This comic seems pretty much about Diane Feinstein, and the knock isn’t exactly their age, but it is related to their age. They’re grossly out of touch with regular Americans any more and we think the age is a factor. We want fresh blood, new eyes, more forward thinking than some of these career politician dinosaurs seem capable of anymore.

      Before he passed, John McCain estimated that $5 million in assets is the line that separated the middle class from the rich…as if anyone middle class is sitting on $4 million for instance. Every year a new batch of Ivy League Valedictorians and Rhode Scholars emerge and we’re stuck with old folks running the show who happen to be severely out of touch. Hell, look at the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the youngest SCOTUS justice to vote for that was 56 and the oldest 75.

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      I even wonder if it’s some sort of coordinated mass manipulation to prevent the increasingly radicalizing people from taking out the groups in power, by letting them fight against the older ones, while they prepare younger fascists to run the place, but that would be too much of a conspirational thought.

      It’s not much of a conspirational thought; it’s common sense blanket chaff laying.

      Ageism, racism, and ableism are easy and timeless levers to pull. Who did the Nazis blame for their problems (besides Jews, their own built-in trifecta of isms)?

      Edit: Nazis are just topical; pick any other axis power. Pick any civilization on Earth whilst they were getting their subjugating in, for that matter. I speak of human nature “always has been.jpg” monkey reaction shit.

      Othering works best when it’s programmed to work at a glance, and as demographics shift, age becomes as useful as racism to manipulate if you’re being paid by a handful of shit stains coordinating their self-defined supremacy (Billionaires. I mean the oligarchical dragons who own the information outlets).

      Too much of a conspirational thought? Please. It’s not even worth a line item in Repub Think Tanks strategy meeting; it’d be like saying the sky is blue or money makes you worthy for that kind. Axiomatic.

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      There is a valid criticism that Congress simply does not represent the US population regarding age, just like it doesn’t represent it in many other ways. Granted, it’s median age versus mean age in the stats I could find, but the median American is 38.8 years of age, while the average Representative is 57.9 and the average Senator 64 years of age. The Senate is disproportionately composed of white people relative to the population at large, while African Americans are under-represented in the Senate and every other group is under-represented in both the House and the Senate. They are overwhelmingly wealthier than the population at large.

      People getting upset with the older generation enacting policies that screw over younger generations is not the same thing as saying, “Man, I can’t wait for my turn to screw them!” There are outliers, like Bernie Sanders, and I’m sure everyone can think of someone they know personally, but many of the positions of power, both in government and in the work place, are occupied by older individuals who will not relinquish their grip on control and are actively abusing their positions to benefit themselves and others belonging to similar demographic groups at the expense of the whole rest of the country.

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    I wonder if senators genuinely believe they’re doing good by hanging in there. Someone’s gonna sit them down and have a tough talk. You know? Be like “hon, you ain’t helping. If you want to help, pick up litter or plant some native species. Your political goofing is hurting the rest of us.”

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    Boomers refuse to release control of the system to the detriment of everyone who will follow them.

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    You really think people would do that? Get elected, make a bunch of legislation that benefits them, and then leave?

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    I wonder what it is about the US system that leads to retirement-age presidents, while in most countries I know about that’s not a thing at all

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    Technically, former GOP Speaker of the House Paul Ryan retired at like 48 after royally fucking up the deficit and raising retirement age for everyone else.