• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      Unlike you though, boomers are selfish as hell. They don’t care if they drop dead tomorrow, they want to force their world on us from beyond the grave.

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        boomers are selfish as hell

        I don’t like this kind of statement.
        It’s far too general to be either true or false. Lots of zoomers and millenials are too.

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          They are the most likely to have multiple homes. They are the most likely to vote to pull up the ladders behind them. They are the most complicit. Just because later generations also have shit members doesn’t excuse 95% of boomers from being a cohort fucking the rest of us.

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            They are the most likely to have started that local city drum circle a few decades ago, the farmers market and/or co-op, they are the ones who fought for civil rights and tried to bring a better world to their children…there are shitty people all over the place some are just being born and shitty people who are a 100 years old but one thing I can guarantee is there is no completely shitt generation fucking everyone else over unless you completely ignore the good people did do.

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          Oh come on. What’s the point of having a Boogeyman you can blame all problems on if you can’t vilify an entire generation. And then complain when other people do the same about yours.

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        Most republican voters I know, boomer or otherwise, simply view voting differently than most their lefter-leaning constituents. I often hear them say that the point of voting is to simply choose what benefits you the most, and that if everyone simply chooses things that specifically align with their own wants and needs, that the biggest, most important groups will get what is needed. It’s not even that they understand that they’re being selfish by only voting in their own best interests, they just honestly believe that considering the needs of others when voting undermines its effectiveness.

        Now, it’s obvious that they’re wrong - smaller groups deserve just as much of a say as their larger counterparts, and the country benefits when they do - but they don’t think about it that way. I believe it’s also why republicans are so concerned about becoming a minority - they honestly believe that voting should specifically only benefit the largest group, and are desperately trying to maintain “their people” as the largest group.

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          I mean, you’re 99% correct imo.

          But it’s not the voting power they’re afraid of losing though.

          “We” (read, anyone even one iota to the left of what passes for American Centrism/Liberalism) doesn’t even stop to consider what “we” would do with a voting majority over the status quo voter example (Christian, White, Male) because that’s just not how “our” brains on average are structured.

          “They” would get exactly what they deserve; adequate everything and a shot at the pursuit of liberty as equitable as can be honestly delivered.

          That’s not what “they” vote for in the pursuit of maintaining their stranglehold over that teensy bit of extra power; they fear what they would vote for because their interests would see them vote the existence of the “other” away.

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            Yeah, exactly. Many republican voters think that everyone should vote for their own goals, and that the biggest group should win, so they’re terrified of not being the biggest group in any given demographic (religion, race, etc.). What they fail to realize is that most people vote for how they’d like the country itself to be run, which includes smaller groups just as much as larger ones, so losing that majority footing wouldn’t impact them very much if at all.

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              Also why this group is so angered by programs such as DEI. Equality for others come across as oppression to them.

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          This line of thinking also develops situations that are worse for the collective. Since everyone is just chasing their own interests. They’re actively making things worse by behaving like that.

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          There’s a bit more to this, in that they seem to view this whole thing as a zero-sum game, so if they’re no longer the majority group, not only do their interests not get the situation, but other groups will actively work to disadvantage them. They just can’t imagine that everyone else doesn’t think that advancing your own views and bettering your conditions means you need to tear down and destroy someone else to do so.

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      My wife and I talk a lot about how we don’t know what causes are coming down the pipeline in the next decades, so our only goal is to have ability to go “I don’t know what this is, I don’t know what the answer is, and nobody has to earn my agreement to keep me from obstructing it.”

      If we raise our kids right they’ll do the right thing. My buy in isn’t that important beyond how much they want my participation.