• arin@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I hear the difference, it’s very clear difference with either heavy metal or music with natural sounds.

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        8 months ago

        Yes, i actually can’t listen to Spotify (even their HD) because the quality is so bad (sounds noticably bad to me). I pay for lossless streaming even though some indie music is not available on the lossless service so i go look for it on lossy services.

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          8 months ago

          You’re telling me you’ve gone through all the effort of performing a double-blind test all by yourself?

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            8 months ago

            I’ve done this test before, a zip folder with all 4 sources all same file size and you can listen to them and note how each sounds then you can read which one is which later from another source

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      8 months ago

      you’re probably lying or this is kind of placebo effect .
      opus, with some exceptions, can reach transparency at even 150kbps (and of course you can and should go higer)
      if the difference does exist it will never be “clear” to a human

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        8 months ago

        Is ogg lossless? Just because you have limited hearing doesn’t mean there aren’t people who can hear differences. There are women who can see more colors than normal people (tetrachromacy). Assuming someone is lying because they aren’t hearing damaged is absurd. Also young kids have better hearing(less damage) than adults, hearing damaged from work or life conditions like traffic with windows down.

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          8 months ago

          well if you need both recordings and an audio spectrometer to even notice the difference, it might as well not exist. good lossy compression is indistinguishable from lossless

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            8 months ago

            Ah yes thank you for verifying that it’s not just as good

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              <0.1% non-perceptible audio quality “difference” is not worth 500% the storage space usage, unless you’re archiving/preserving the audio and absolutely need the original bit-for-bit representation
              if you’re just listening to it use opus, or in the worst case ogg vorbis

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                    8 months ago

                    I’ve done the blind test before and 128k sounds the same as 320k, but flac and wav sounds clear and clean to me. IDK how people can tell the difference between 128k 320k (unless it was back in the day when encoding took longer and they used bad quality to save time)