• bamboo@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I support Iran’s defensive actions against Israeli aggression. I hope Iran chooses military and intelligence targets instead of civilian ones, in compliance with international law, despite Israel targeting primarily civilians in their war of conquest.

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      Well said. Lawful engagement is the only way if anyone is going to hold that kind of power. American hegemony has proven itself thoroughly hypocritical, time and time again. It’s attack dog in the middle east is holding the leash. Rule of law must reign - but never forget its our collective responsibility to write and uphold just laws for the collective.

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        Isn’t that the US’s fault though? Didn’t they help overthrow the previous government in Iran for the current one? Not say that makes Iran a good place, just that this is all because of the US.

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          No that’s not the case. The US actually was a big fan of the pre-Khomeiny government in Iran. Of course Trump did make things worse by tearing up the Iran-nuclear deal.

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            I think they’re referring to the 1953 coup that the CIA was definitely involved with, but I’m not too sure how involved the US was in the 1979 revolution. The US probably didn’t have much influence in that one considering how long the Iran hostage crisis lasted.

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          Violating the Vienna Convention is so hot right now.

          Between Equador storming Mexico’s to Israel bombing Iran’s…

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        I believe he’s referring to the Iranian consulate in Damascus that was targeted and blown up by Israel a few days ago

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        Israel has attacked 4 different countries in it’s ‘war against hamas.’ It’s attacked, Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Palestine. They’re aggressively trying to escalate.

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    Hopefully this retaliation will be enough to scare Israel straight. However, I am concerned that it will lead further escalation and greater US involvement…

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      It won’t. Unfortunately this is not even a propportional response. I highly doubt attack on Gaza will be reduced, and I only hope Israel won’t use this as pretext to attack Iran even more.

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        Maybe they shouldn’t bomb Iran if they don’t want them to strike back?

        Like I want all of this conflict to end, but Israel just bombed Iran’s consulate in Syria, killing 2 generals and 5 officers. What did they think is gonna happen when they do that? Do they expect a country to just say “oh no don’t do it again please.”?

        If it was US generals and officers the US would have went ape shit about it in response

        Israel was striking their consulate in response to rockets that were fired at them, but the detail that people miss is that the rockets fired was in response to Israel previously striking them as well.

        As another commenter said, Iran has the right to defend itself. If Israel wants Iran to stop attacking them, maybe they should try not attacking Iran?

        (If this came off as sarcastic or combative it wasn’t intended, just trying to say how I see the situation between Iran and Israel but I suck at formatting)

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    USA should keep there feets and hands down on this one. This isn’t an affair that need their involvement.

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        You say this as if we’re supposed to feel bad about this. Given the barbaric way Israel behaves as a nation, let the country be eaten up. Israel deserves everything it gets.

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      There’s an argument that the Moscow wing of the Republican Party has emboldened countries like Iran due to its lack of support for Ukraine. Just because the US might not get involved, it doesn’t mean its adversaries will also sit this one out.

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        I think countries like Israel and the US enacting and enabling a genocide and constantly bombing countries in the middle east has “emboldened countries like Iran” (hmm, I wonder what you meant with that phrasing…). Israel just struck an Iranian embassy last week, and this is retaliation.

        “There’s an argument” you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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        When you totally understand both world politics and the domestic political parties of the US.

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    I hope Israel does not use this as pretext for escalation. Wouldn’t be surprising if the genocidal state pursues this.

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      let’s be real, the genocide would have continued regardless of the attack, this fued has been going for years this attack is a drop in the bucket really. It’s only going to be used an an excuse for international support at this point but, eventually I expect international support will waiver

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      Si. We’re about to see how the iron dome stands against it. Maybe Iran has figured out a way to bypass Israeli defences…

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        Unlikely, we’ve seen Iranian drones in action in Ukraine and they’re not particularly special. I bet Israel shoots them all down.

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          I see someone’s never played StarCraft. Zerg rush is absolutely a viable strategy. How many rockets are loaded and ready to go in one area at any given time?

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        Probably not. It’s one of if not the most sophisticated air-defense on the planet. Without overwhelming it, attacks have little chance of any significant successes.

        Just look at Ukraine, most attacks never reach their target and they are probably not equipped as well as Israel is (and also spread out much further). Even Russia’s “hypersonic” missiles are shot down by plain ol’ patriot systems on the regular.

        So unless Iran pulls out some really fancy tricks, they will probably just hit low-value targets or maybe manage to overwhelm the defense in some limited areas (at the cost of a lot of drones). If this was to drag on however, it’ll start to hurt eventually…

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      What israel did, attacking the consulate of iran inside Síria is really really fucked up. Iran played it cool and did this attack today, wich you could consider a very light response because attacking an embassy is casus belli (reason for war). But the usa will turn this into ww3 sooner or later, theres no doubt about it