• UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    The people saying this shit are conservatives as well. It’s just that they’re Muslim conservatives. Condemning an entire group of people to death is absolutely evil.

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      8 months ago

      Conservative muslims are no concerned about what others believe in. That is political Islam that wants to kill every person on the planet who will not bow down to the supremacy of Islam and become a devout muslim.

      Some say to become muslim or pay extra tax if you won’t convert, others say convert or death.

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        8 months ago

        It honestly depends on the geographic location. You would be right about this if you were talking about the middle East and Africa. However, Muslim immigrants to North America who are also socially conservative do not generally tend to be so extreme.

        They are however as extreme as the GOP/PPC when it comes to social issues. So yeah, they suck.

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          Except for American born clerics who were guides and inspirators for a few mass casualities and terrorist attacks. There are American and Canadian born muslims who are raised in the ways of genocide and their 50 year plan to replace the population.

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            8 months ago

            You always have freaks like that. It depends how powerful a given voting block is. How do American conservative Muslims vote? Do they vote for genocide against non Muslims? They don’t. That’s what I meant.

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              8 months ago

              Soe reject voting as a sin. It depends on if they recognize the republic or if they want North America ruled under the authority of a caliphate, even though there isn’t one at the moment. But North American muslims do dream of a global caliphate to rule the planet.

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      8 months ago

      Eh I wouldn’t call them a “conservative”. Most are socialist but happen to be religious conservatives.

      People are really hard to label.

      I’m conservative and I have nothing in common with most of these people.

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        8 months ago

        I’m conservative and I have nothing in common with most of these people.

        You support anti trans and LGBTQ legislation, you support book banning, you support guns in favor of kids, you support taking womens’ rights away from them, you support the apartheid state of Israel and there is a possibility that you support the Jan 6th coup attempt. From my perspective you are no different from these assholes.

        If you claim to be conservative only from an economic sense while being progressive socially, then you are not conservative - you are a liberal.

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          8 months ago

          Show me where I have supported those things.

          Find the quote where I said that. Otherwise you are just making shit up

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            You claim to be a conservative. You are in the US. This is the position of the GOP, which is the largest political party representing conservatism. Hence, the definition of a conservative is set by the GOP. The above positions are held by all factions in the GOP (except for Jan 6th).

            Imagine saying “I’m a Nazi” and then asking for quotes for when you said “gas the Jews”.

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              You don’t get to define my views. Either I said it or I didn’t. Otherwise you are building a straw man argument.

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                But I do. U said so yourself that you are a conservative. In the American context, this is what a conservative means. I can’t be a Nazi and say “we must seize means of production”. Words have meanings.

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                  You can say conservatives say something. It may be hyperbole but it’s fine. When you say I did something, you need proof of that. Otherwise it’s a strawman argument.

                  Unlike liberals, conservatives are not a monolithic group.

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                    Liberals aren’t a monolithic group either.

                    In fact, I wouldn’t lump actual Liberals (as in support the philosophy of Liberalism, as espoused by liberal thinkers 200 years ago) with Leftists or Progressives.