And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given
Hell I look at the things I said over 15 years ago and I hate that I had said such hurtful things about groups of people that not only now do I call my friends but some of them I have called my significant others as well
BTW I’m not sure what they said as their comment was gone before I got here
I congratulate you on becoming a better person, but I’ve given up trying to educate conservatives. Every single conservative I personally know has only gotten worse over the years, and the last straw for me was when I had one who self-identifies as a “moderate conservative” flat out tell me that he wishes gender and sexual minorities didn’t exist, and that he thinks the mere existence of these minorities is “polarizing” and makes him feel uncomfortable.
So yes, while I fully acknowledge that it’s possible for conservatives to unfuck themselves and that being dismissive of them definitely won’t help, I’m just so past trying to be the better person when all I get back is shit like thinly veiled wishes for a “final solution”. I’m so fucking tired of the onus being on progressives for trying to make conservatives better people, when so many of them want to literally murder us queers
Edit: I realized I know one conservative who did actually become a good person eventually. He used to be a straight-up neo-Nazi too (and I’m not being hyperbolic here, he actually self-identified as one) which makes it all the more impressive
And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given
Exactly. As the person responded with the link on Wikipedia about existence of third genders, I find that those who are anti-lgbt were just conditioned as such because of either religion, or plain homophobia, or both. I’ve lived in both religious and non-religious countries, and the former have anti-lgbt sentiment for obvious reasons. Meanwhile, homophobia in the latter-- especially in Europe–are more motivated by sheer disgust on non-heteronormative genders and less about religion. But I still think that the anti-lgbt sentiment by many Europeans is a residue and offshoot from patriarchal and homophobic teachings of Christianity.
People can change as they learn new things
And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given
Hell I look at the things I said over 15 years ago and I hate that I had said such hurtful things about groups of people that not only now do I call my friends but some of them I have called my significant others as well
BTW I’m not sure what they said as their comment was gone before I got here
Some people can change.
I congratulate you on becoming a better person, but I’ve given up trying to educate conservatives. Every single conservative I personally know has only gotten worse over the years, and the last straw for me was when I had one who self-identifies as a “moderate conservative” flat out tell me that he wishes gender and sexual minorities didn’t exist, and that he thinks the mere existence of these minorities is “polarizing” and makes him feel uncomfortable.
So yes, while I fully acknowledge that it’s possible for conservatives to unfuck themselves and that being dismissive of them definitely won’t help, I’m just so past trying to be the better person when all I get back is shit like thinly veiled wishes for a “final solution”. I’m so fucking tired of the onus being on progressives for trying to make conservatives better people, when so many of them want to literally murder us queers
Edit: I realized I know one conservative who did actually become a good person eventually. He used to be a straight-up neo-Nazi too (and I’m not being hyperbolic here, he actually self-identified as one) which makes it all the more impressive
Exactly. As the person responded with the link on Wikipedia about existence of third genders, I find that those who are anti-lgbt were just conditioned as such because of either religion, or plain homophobia, or both. I’ve lived in both religious and non-religious countries, and the former have anti-lgbt sentiment for obvious reasons. Meanwhile, homophobia in the latter-- especially in Europe–are more motivated by sheer disgust on non-heteronormative genders and less about religion. But I still think that the anti-lgbt sentiment by many Europeans is a residue and offshoot from patriarchal and homophobic teachings of Christianity.