Remember when Trump said “America First” and everyone cried? Pepperidge Farms remembers…

      • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        38
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        8 months ago

        Everywhere should legalize all drugs.

        Tax that shit and put the money into rehab and education. Prohibition has only ever benefited criminals.

        • Quokka@quokk.au
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          8 months ago

          Nah, decriminalise all drugs sure.

          But shit like fentanyl, krokodil, etc. shouldn’t be actively promoted through ease of access.

          • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            18
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            8 months ago

            Nobody is taking fentanyl or krokodil in world where uncut medical-grade opiates are available. Hell, even fentanyl can be dosed safely if it isn’t coming from the unregulated black market.

            Full legalization, full-stop. Drugs are so dangerous because we prohibit the existence of a safe, regulated market.

            • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.me
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              How the hell do you dose fentanyl safely outside of a clinical context? You cannot discern a lethal dose from a nonlethal dose with the naked eye.

              • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                11
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                8 months ago

                Legalized doesn’t mean unregulated, people went blind during prohibition due to dangerous moonshine but it’s incredibly rare now as it’s brought from licensed manufacturers.

                • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  Tbh it’s even rare with moonshine now. Idk if it’s just the internet making knowledge more widely accessible but now people know to throw out the methanol (or “foreshots”) for blinding reasons, and if you want it to be good throw the heads and tails too.

                • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.me
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  It’s a property of fentanyl itself. I’m saying that outside of a clinical context, you don’t have the instrumentation necessary to dose it.

                  • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    I’m suggesting reputable businesses could sell dosed mixtures just like they do in a clinical setting. A pill or solution with the appropriate amount.

              • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                8 months ago

                You’re ignoring the part where they said that no one would be taking fentanyl because other opiates would be available. It was literally the first sentence.

                People don’t typically take it recreationally on purpose; it’s usually because a low level dealer cut the drug and added fentanyl to it.

                • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  There are people on the street nowadays who prefer rent over heroin. It sounds crazy to non addicts, but the high is better for less money and it might actually be safe for people to knowingly buy fent and attempt correct dosing themselves rather than dosing for heroin but having cent laced.

                  Like, shit, that is dark and evidence the drug war has failed.

              • Revan343@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                8 months ago

                With regulated doses, probably in pill form, like any other fucking drug? Obviously they wouldn’t be selling pure fentanyl powder

    • Spacemanspliff@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      The problem is, unless something is done about the cartels before hand, all that is going to do is legitimize them.

        • The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          They should be granted amnesty in exchange for disarmament, among other things to drag them into legitimacy and abiding rule of law. It would have to be an undertaking comparable in scope to denazification post-WWII though.

      • Sneezycat
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        8 months ago

        Legalizing drugs doesn’t mean there are no regulations. The FDA would have to control the quality of the drugs, and I bet the cartels don’t exactly have quality control.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Cartels make an estimated $20-30 billion a year selling drugs to the U.S.

        If the FDA regulates and we make our own, you just cut out all that money from them. Their influence goes down greatly. Also feeds the money back into our economy and the taxes on it can help us line our politicians pockets, oops I mean help fund healthcare

        • Spacemanspliff@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Yeah, but the comment I’m replying to specifically said mexico should legalize, that wouldn’t change the us demand at all.