• JayJay@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I don’t like either candidate, but I’ll be damned if trump is going to be president again and project 2025 comes to fruition.

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        4 months ago

        just overthrow the government

        That’s far easier said than done, and honestly even saying that feels like an understatement

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            Probably harder now than ever. I think the last time it was tried, roughly 2/5ths of the population wanted it and they failed miserably, and they were still using Muskets then.

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        We could just take out the pharmaceutical manufacturers and the government would expire when they don’t get their meds.

        Sun Tzu

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        4 months ago

        Sooooo, basically what trump tried, but its somehow okay because you said it?

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          By that logic it’s never okay. Some of th best changes in history grew from overthrowing government.

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            Generally speaking what follows a violent revolution is usually a few decades of war, poverty and tyranny.

            It’s quite unlikely that you’ll be better off in the 2-3 following decades than when you started. After that, it’s anyone’s guess. You might be better off or worse off, depending on the ability of the new government

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            4 months ago

            I would say a peaceful change by vote of the people (not politicians) would be a better way than violent revolution. Violent revolution can be justified, but it will end up hurting many people and destabilizing a country. War from internal and external parties would be garunteed. Peaceful revolution is not an easy nor even plausable outcome, but it would harm far fewer people.

            Im curious: How does not voting show you wish for revolution? My view is that I’d rather vote for someone who is working within the system (corrupt and broken though it may be) than someone who wants to tear it down and install a dictatorship. Not voting just means you’re complicit and signals you don’t prefer one over the other. I don’t like either, but i definitely have a preference.

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              4 months ago

              Tough question I don’t have an answer for. Both established parties are corrupt beyond measure, pandering to the same group behind closed doors.

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            Oh OK. So this is just “extremists are extreme”. Gotcha.

            Downvote me all you want, ppl.

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              Yeah, it seems so, i personally don’t like our system either, but that would have to come down to a vote from the people to tear it down and start over. People dont get to force the issue like trump and many extremists, and apparently, like this other person wants.

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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          I think a better analogy would be, “a building has many exits available, but only 2 emergency exits. During an emergency, you ‘must’ use the emergency exits… But do you really?”

          If the USA population decided to ignore the democrats or republicans, as a whole, and focus their votes on one of the remaining four parties, then you lot would see a different party being elected. Easier said than done. I know. And I’m not blaming any of the USA voting population for this dichotomy.