okay but when I was a young innocent healthy teenager, I did join the army of my own volition and now they are taking care of me for the rest of my life. Some people want to join the Army. Let people do whatever they want.
Or you could move to a country where signing away your soul and conciousness in order to murder people your governement deems “dangerous” just isn’t a thing.
I got all of your benefits, yet didn’t have to join a murder brigade for it.
We can’t all live in Iceland. Somebody has to choose violence, because others will choose violence for you. You can’t simply reason with Russia who invaded their neighbors every eight years. The world is messier than it appears and chances are, you are benefiting from someone else’s sacrifice to keep your country secure.
We can’t control what country we are born into. I joined the Army at age 18 because I felt like it. Knowing what I know now, of course I would not have done that. But I did and that’s how my life was and everything is fine now for me. If I hadn’t joined the military, I would have had no support or safety net whatsoever.
Isn’t one of the common complaints about US military healthcare is that it is notoriously terrible? You’d come in with your torso, three arms, and a leg blown off, and you’d be given a panadol for your trouble, whilst getting it put on your record, where it might impair future promotions?
Even for post-military, it’s still not great. There are countless anecdotes about people having to wrangle with the Veteran’s Association trying to get military acquired injuries classified as such, or simply not getting apporpriate care at all. Particularly when it comes to psychological injury as a result of military service.
Are you just repeating things you’ve heard from the Vietnam era? I have been fully in the military health care system in Washington DC, Portland Oregon, Reno Nevada, Los Angeles California, and it has all been excellent state-of-the-art care.
Not at all. I’ve talked with a few friends and acquaintences in Virginia and Florida who very much complain about the woeful state of military healthcare, in addition to seeing the complaints show up here and there on military reddits.
All right, you hold onto those rare scenarios and keep assuming that everyone in the military ends up like that. You enjoy working every day for the rest of your life while we get to retire at age 40 or younger.
LOL if I was dead, how do you think I would be talking to you right now?
All you know about the military is what you’ve heard from the media. If you’ve experienced it you’ll know how boring and uneventful it is and hardly anybody ever gets injured. They pay you money for the rest of your life and you are set.
Oh and if you like cemeteries so much, military veterans get free burial too. Do you have any idea how much a funeral and a burial costs for civilians? $$$$$$
Like my 89-year-old grandfather who was a World war II veteran, the military paid for his funeral. His death had absolutely nothing to do with military service. He died of old age, decades after World war II.
my grandfather was a wwii veteran, and they took pretty good care of him.
his brother was also a wwii veteran and spent the rest of his life drinking away the horrors he’d seen and scream-sobbing any time there was a thunderstorm.
I don’t know anybody I served with in the military who experienced any of those things. We all came out completely alive & whole & thriving, The only person I knew in the military who died, he got in a car accident and died while he was on leave.
I’m guessing after 2006, with little to no deployment time then?
My unit still has suicides 20 years later. We had people go home without limbs, with major brain damage, and in body bags.
And no it wasn’t just us infantry guys. The mechanics had to go out and recover vehicles knowing they’ve been abandoned in the city for hours. That’s probably the only time we weren’t surprised. The logistics guys were driving every day, no matter what the IED report said. And the mortars landing on base didn’t stop to ask what your job was.
I’m glad you got the other side of the dice. But don’t pretend the shit stick doesn’t exist.
🙄 I served for 4 years, two of those years I was in school. And none of those years I was in combat, I was in military intelligence, we worked in a bunker, pretty isolated job. Nobody I know died, except for that car accident guy.
So what you’re saying is the country has no vested interest in supporting its citizens unless they are willing to die for it in which case the scraps thrown to you were sufficient enough to keep you out of abject poverty.
Sorry you didn’t take advantage of the GI bill or any TA or any of the certificates you got or the work experience or potentially security clearance or college credit
Having schools forward the contact info of low-income, low-performing students to recruiters at the age of 14 so those recruiters can start talking to kids without anyone else’s knowledge and having kindergartners do worksheets with recruiters where they talk about what branch of the service they would join if they could isn’t letting people do whatever they want, it’s grooming children to die for the aristocrats.
okay but when I was a young innocent healthy teenager, I did join the army of my own volition and now they are taking care of me for the rest of my life. Some people want to join the Army. Let people do whatever they want.
Good thing we fund the military instead of public healthcare that would take care of everyone.
Well if you join the military then you can have free health care too.
Or you could move to a country where signing away your soul and conciousness in order to murder people your governement deems “dangerous” just isn’t a thing.
I got all of your benefits, yet didn’t have to join a murder brigade for it.
We can’t all live in Iceland. Somebody has to choose violence, because others will choose violence for you. You can’t simply reason with Russia who invaded their neighbors every eight years. The world is messier than it appears and chances are, you are benefiting from someone else’s sacrifice to keep your country secure.
We can’t control what country we are born into. I joined the Army at age 18 because I felt like it. Knowing what I know now, of course I would not have done that. But I did and that’s how my life was and everything is fine now for me. If I hadn’t joined the military, I would have had no support or safety net whatsoever.
Surely you should be advocating for improving your society rather than telling everybody that the only way to get by is to join the military.
If you joined back in 2000 there’s a very good chance you might be dead by now. If you did join back in 2000 you’re very lucky that you’re not.
You can certainly control the propaganda that you’re typing with remarkable efficiency – shut the fuck up, bootlicker.
Isn’t one of the common complaints about US military healthcare is that it is notoriously terrible? You’d come in with your torso, three arms, and a leg blown off, and you’d be given a panadol for your trouble, whilst getting it put on your record, where it might impair future promotions?
Even for post-military, it’s still not great. There are countless anecdotes about people having to wrangle with the Veteran’s Association trying to get military acquired injuries classified as such, or simply not getting apporpriate care at all. Particularly when it comes to psychological injury as a result of military service.
Are you just repeating things you’ve heard from the Vietnam era? I have been fully in the military health care system in Washington DC, Portland Oregon, Reno Nevada, Los Angeles California, and it has all been excellent state-of-the-art care.
Not at all. I’ve talked with a few friends and acquaintences in Virginia and Florida who very much complain about the woeful state of military healthcare, in addition to seeing the complaints show up here and there on military reddits.
It’s not entirely anecdotal, though. There are known staff shortages at the moment, although it seems to have been going for a while.
The look on the face of what I am assuming is a cadet in the background is priceless, like “WTF am I getting myself into?”
Batman hadn’t joined up I bet he would have had to have bought his own wheelchair
All right, you hold onto those rare scenarios and keep assuming that everyone in the military ends up like that. You enjoy working every day for the rest of your life while we get to retire at age 40 or younger.
LOL if I was dead, how do you think I would be talking to you right now?
All you know about the military is what you’ve heard from the media. If you’ve experienced it you’ll know how boring and uneventful it is and hardly anybody ever gets injured. They pay you money for the rest of your life and you are set.
Oh and if you like cemeteries so much, military veterans get free burial too. Do you have any idea how much a funeral and a burial costs for civilians? $$$$$$
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Oh my gosh you would make an excellent journalist.
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I was born with a vagina. I’ve always had a vagina.
Like my 89-year-old grandfather who was a World war II veteran, the military paid for his funeral. His death had absolutely nothing to do with military service. He died of old age, decades after World war II.
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my grandfather was a wwii veteran, and they took pretty good care of him.
his brother was also a wwii veteran and spent the rest of his life drinking away the horrors he’d seen and scream-sobbing any time there was a thunderstorm.
They fuck up your society so they can entice you into joining in order to get benefits other societies get for free.
Glad it worked out for you. Let’s not force people to risk death, dismemberment, and permanent brain damage just to live an okay life.
I don’t know anybody I served with in the military who experienced any of those things. We all came out completely alive & whole & thriving, The only person I knew in the military who died, he got in a car accident and died while he was on leave.
I’m guessing after 2006, with little to no deployment time then?
My unit still has suicides 20 years later. We had people go home without limbs, with major brain damage, and in body bags.
And no it wasn’t just us infantry guys. The mechanics had to go out and recover vehicles knowing they’ve been abandoned in the city for hours. That’s probably the only time we weren’t surprised. The logistics guys were driving every day, no matter what the IED report said. And the mortars landing on base didn’t stop to ask what your job was.
I’m glad you got the other side of the dice. But don’t pretend the shit stick doesn’t exist.
Thank you for speaking truth to bullshit.
funny I know 3 people who served and are dead, and one who has just disappeared and I didn’t even serve.
Then you’re a fucking liar
🙄 I served for 4 years, two of those years I was in school. And none of those years I was in combat, I was in military intelligence, we worked in a bunker, pretty isolated job. Nobody I know died, except for that car accident guy.
What MOS has 2 years of school and only 2 years of active duty? You’re full of shit stolen valor.
So what you’re saying is the country has no vested interest in supporting its citizens unless they are willing to die for it in which case the scraps thrown to you were sufficient enough to keep you out of abject poverty.
What a system.
I’m also a vet and I didn’t get shit.
Sorry you didn’t take advantage of the GI bill or any TA or any of the certificates you got or the work experience or potentially security clearance or college credit
Having schools forward the contact info of low-income, low-performing students to recruiters at the age of 14 so those recruiters can start talking to kids without anyone else’s knowledge and having kindergartners do worksheets with recruiters where they talk about what branch of the service they would join if they could isn’t letting people do whatever they want, it’s grooming children to die for the aristocrats.
Semper Fi, mother fucker!! Hoo ah!