Top: TFW when Nazi Germany wasn’t Nazi.

Bottom: This mod just removed a rhetorical question because “nobody said that”???

Thread in case y’all wanna see the context. Everything below the first paragraph was added after my response.

  • rbn
    22·
    16 days ago

    Wealthy people with power being greedy and striving for more is not a proof that facism is some kind of trait burnt into the ‘German genes’. That’s rather an issue of capitalism than the nation you were born in. In the USA facism is equally on the rise as in Germany (if not worse). Still, that’s not because the entire population has always been Nazis and slave holders. It’s because a wealthy minority abuses their power to spread propaganda.

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5·
      16 days ago

      You’re totally right, except that’s not the argument I made. As far as straw men go, it’s absolutely absurd, and you should be embarrassed for having tried that.

      • rbn
        11·
        16 days ago

        TBH I confused you with OP who argued Germans (so all of them) never stopped being Nazis but from my perspective also your argument without the context of the first post kind of implies to me that just because someone’s ancestors used to be nazis, and they are still involved in their ancestors’ corporations, that they must be Nazis too.

        I think there’s a correlation between wealth and facism to some degree. But IMHO not because a company already existed back in that era.

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          4·
          16 days ago

          I think there’s a correlation between wealth and facism to some degree. But IMHO not because a company already existed back in that era.

          That’s also not what I said. I said almost all of those families were active members of the Nazi party. In fact, some of the billionaires that control or did control massive and popular German corporations not only benefited from forced labor sourced from Nazi concentration camps, but were members of the SS themselves.

          So no, while being rich doesn’t make you a fascist in and of itself, being a multi-generational Nazi family, that profited from the Third Reich, used Jewish slaves, actively took part in the “final solution to the Jewish problem”, and has taken steps to hide that past, does make you a fascist. Some of the German billionaires that are alive and running these corporations today have nothing but praise for their fathers who were alive and active Nazis during WW2.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WX5zOdMprc