

And this is precisely why all such tools must be strictly open source and strictly using local models. So none of those fuckers would be able to influence anything I’m doing on my own machine.


And this is precisely why all such tools must be strictly open source and strictly using local models. So none of those fuckers would be able to influence anything I’m doing on my own machine.


It doesn’t really matter in the context of this particular topic. They’ve highlighted the problem and I think in here we should abstract from their personality and their conflicts with Murena & Co., and focus on the problem itself.
And the problem is that, regardless of who’s implementing the attestation technology and regardless of who is critizing it, the very concept of device attestation based on OEM/Google/Apple/Murena/GrapheneOS/whoever approval is harmful and anti-consumer at its core.
No matter who owns the authority to decide which devices are deemed “good” and which are deemed “bad”, this authority shouldn’t exist at all. Only the user should be in charge of the decision of which os to use — be it Google’s Android, GrapheneOS, MIUI, eOS, PostmarketOS or MS-DOS — OEMs/Google/Murena/etc should have no say in it.


Actual NFC payments (as well as security in general) are absolutely irrelevant to this attestation technology. NFC for payments works perfectly (and not by a bit less securely) without all this “security” circus — because NFC payments (and any other kind of banking or payments) is just a completely different thing.
The only thing that this kind of attestation does is proves to the app (in this example, a banking app), that the device it runs on has been deemed by the OEM (or Google in case of Play Integrity) as worthy.
And I specifically wrote it as “deemed as worthy” because it is exactly what it is: “deemed” doesn’t mean that it was certified or analysed for vulnerability or even properly updated, and “worthy” doesn’t mean that it’s actually secure or even capable to be secure.
This whole technology and the claims about its “security” is just a marketing scam that allows Google/OEMs to control your phone by ensuring that you’re not running some software not approved/sold by them specifically (e.g. GrapheneOS, LineageOS, PostmarketOS, your own Linux build, MS-DOS 6.11 — doesn’t matter) and for both the OEMs and the apps (banks in this case) to create a visibility of security without actually ensuring this security.
It doesn’t matter who controls the attestation “authority” — Google or random European companies — in the end this technology is still evil and even harmful for real security — by design.


https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617
It’s literally the same crap, just “under the new management”.


A piefed.social bug has apparently purged all local Piefed.social accounts



FFS, why does everyone has to waste so much screen space on those damn rounded corners and shadows and paddings for them? Why those damn designers across all companies can’t just calm the fuck down and leave the tools be tools and not some form of art?


Fuck Microslop and fuck Google.


It’s typical corporate marketing bullshit to cover up their real authoritarian censorship mechanism: https://keepandroidopen.org/


From the article it seems that it’s not even stylometry, but profile features extraction from the large amount of text. So, for example, if I have my full true profile somewhere where I never mention something like BDSM but in another place I have a blog specifically about BDSM but intentionally (and let’s assume efficiently) omit or change every single detail about myself there, then, in theory, this particular technique should fail.
But yes, nothing prevents people from using LLMs in the same way for stylometry (and I’m 101% sure that those who are interested in that are already doing so). And yes, local “rewriter” LLM would help to some extent, but I think there has been another research somewhere that LLM-produced text allows to, if not completely recover the original prompt, then at least kind of fingerprint it, so… I wouldn’t fully trust that method either :)


Useless, worthless and typical corporate bullshit to distract everyone from the actual authoritarian censorship and control still being imposed by them —> https://keepandroidopen.org/


I think it sounds more correct like:
each non-technological[-company-owned] activity we participate in has become an act of micro-revolution.
There’s nothing wrong with the digital media or streaming technology on its own. It might be even more energy-efficient than some older technologies.
What’s wrong is that now the company X Y (sheesh, you can’t even use a random alphabet letter anymore without pointing right at one of them!) owns your whole music library, decides what to remove from there and what make you add there, and just by the way also casually sells your personal data and your habits to some other companies, that also decide for you what you should read/watch/listen to/buy.


Maybe we could start by abolishing the institute of leeches called “insurance industry”? 🤔


So, basically, nothing useful.
https://enclose.horse/ Day 64
🥉 okay 🥉 59%


What a goddamn surprise! surprised_pikachu.jpg
https://enclose.horse/ Day 61
💎 PERFECT! 💎 100%
What are you guys getting from there? What kind of books/materials? Not to judge or spy on you
(what a spy would say), but just genuinely curious.