Democrat/Republican they still keep the status quo, like all presidents before.

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      Except the constitution exists. And when you try to overthrow our government and install yourself as a dictator you lose that privilege.

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        The Constitution of the United States also requires due process before punishing people. That would require a court of law, specifically a criminal court, or even the Congress. To come to a judgment and issue a felony against the candidate. To my knowledge that has not happened, so according to due process in the rule of law, they should be an eligible candidate to be voted on.

        Otherwise, we’re capriciously and arbitrarily, not following our own rule of law, and the democracy is not open.

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          It says “engage” in insurrection, not “convicted”, because if there is an insurrection, the courts are not able to function normally, and those engaged in insurrection are evading the normal legal process.

          Sound like any candidate you know?

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            as a society ruled by law, I would expect a court of law to make the determination if such conduct was engaged.

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              That’s why courts are kicking him off the ballot for engaging in insurrection.

              But some people are demanding he receive special treatment, and must not only engage in insurrection but be arrested, tried, and convicted.

              The founding fathers recognized that’s not always possible in an insurrection.

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                  So do you retract your original claim that a conviction is required to “engage” in insurrection?

                  Do you believe DJT engaged in insurrection?

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                    I absolutely do not retract my claim. But Court needs to make the determination. That determination would be a conviction. Or used in the furtherance of a conviction.

                    I have no judgment about whether the candidate performed an insurrection or not. If you’re asking my personal opinion I don’t like him. I don’t want him to be president.

                    I want the rule of law to govern the electoral system. Which means we need to work by findings and not emotions