President Biden attended a fundraiser in San Francisco late Wednesday where protesters showed up calling for an end to US aid for Israel and a cease-fire in its ongoing war in Gaza.
Centrist Democrats can’t justify their support for genocide because there is no justification for supporting genocide. But since they don’t want to stop, we get the Greatest Hits of Centrist Dismissals.
So much of the dismissal of those who are opposed to the genocide that centrist Democrats support boils down to “I’m old. I assume you’re younger than me and are therefore wrong.”
Exactly. It’s just Boomers who are obsessed with getting their way. Then they turn around and tell us that we don’t know how to compromise. The best examples they have about “compromises” they have made are things like “Biden stood with a picket line!” or “He tried for student loan forgiveness.” They genuinely feel like those were material compromises on their part despite neither one having any impact on their lives in any way. It’s fucking pathetic.
Centrist Democrats didn’t want student loan forgiveness because of course they didn’t, while progressives wanted student loan forgiveness because it helps people. Biden listened to progressives. When the Supreme Court agreed with Centrist Democrats and struck down Biden’s first attempt at forgiveness, he kept trying.
I’ve been screaming for years that Democrats need to listen to progressives and not give up forever at the first setback. Biden did exactly what I wanted on student loans: he listened to progressives and kept trying. I cannot fault him on that issue.
There’s a whole host of other issues I absolutely will fault him for. I agree with your other example. Centrist Democrats keep trying to give Biden sole credit for the UAW’s hard work because he held a photo op.
If Biden had succeeded at student loan forgiveness that would mean moderates gave something up. He didn’t and thus it’s ridiculous to me they try to act like that’s a compromise. It was an attempt at a compromise which failed.
I’m saying they’ve been “educated” by Tiktok, AKA brainwashed.
Nationally, 48 percent of U.S. Millennial and Gen Z could not name a single one of the more than 40,000 concentration camps or ghettos established during World War II. This number is reflected in individual state outcomes, with an astounding 60 percent of respondents in Texas, 58 percent in New York, and 57 percent in South Carolina, unable to name a single camp or ghetto.
56 percent of U.S. Millennial and Gen Z were unable to identify Auschwitz-Birkenau, and there was virtually no awareness of concentration camps and ghettos overall. Only six percent of respondents are familiar with the infamous Dachau camp, while awareness of Bergen-Belsen (three percent), Buchenwald (one percent) and Treblinka (one percent) is virtually nonexistent.
When asked how many Jews were killed during the Holocaust, 63 percent of Millennials and Gen Z did not know six million Jews were murdered.
Biden needs these votes to win the 2024 general election. You can mock them all you like but that isn’t going to make them show up at the ballot box. If you don’t want Trump to win you’d better hope he stops sending weapons to Israel.
You can mock them all you like but that isn’t going to make them show up at the ballot box.
I’m aware.
There are people who are going to be dumb about this and stay home or vote third party. Thing is there’s nothing anyone will say or do that will change their minds one way or another. I know because I voted for Jill Stein in 2016, in Wisconsin. Some have to make the mistake first hand to know it was wrong. It is what it is.
Upshot is I suspect major operations will be wrapped up by late spring. If so Gaza will be a distant memory to most voters in November.
Biden had an 81,000 vote margin in the key electoral college states to work with in 2020. Hopefully he can take the hit this Gaza situation will bring.
If he can’t, so be it. Life will just get worse faster but at least I’ll get to have a little bit of schadenfreude on the way down watching the Tiktokd left live the meme.
I see that meme and I think moderates when they cry that their pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting trash candidate who refuses to compromise with leftists or progressives loses to Donald Trump.
You look at 2016 and you feel guilty for what you did. I look at 2016 and thought “surely moderates will see the error of their ways and understand they can’t win elections without us.”
Nope. Despite moderates being the majority voting bloc they convinced themselves and a good deal of progressives that it was our fault. It’s complete horse shit.
Centrist Democrats can’t justify their support for genocide because there is no justification for supporting genocide. But since they don’t want to stop, we get the Greatest Hits of Centrist Dismissals.
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So much of the dismissal of those who are opposed to the genocide that centrist Democrats support boils down to “I’m old. I assume you’re younger than me and are therefore wrong.”
Exactly. It’s just Boomers who are obsessed with getting their way. Then they turn around and tell us that we don’t know how to compromise. The best examples they have about “compromises” they have made are things like “Biden stood with a picket line!” or “He tried for student loan forgiveness.” They genuinely feel like those were material compromises on their part despite neither one having any impact on their lives in any way. It’s fucking pathetic.
Centrist Democrats didn’t want student loan forgiveness because of course they didn’t, while progressives wanted student loan forgiveness because it helps people. Biden listened to progressives. When the Supreme Court agreed with Centrist Democrats and struck down Biden’s first attempt at forgiveness, he kept trying.
I’ve been screaming for years that Democrats need to listen to progressives and not give up forever at the first setback. Biden did exactly what I wanted on student loans: he listened to progressives and kept trying. I cannot fault him on that issue.
There’s a whole host of other issues I absolutely will fault him for. I agree with your other example. Centrist Democrats keep trying to give Biden sole credit for the UAW’s hard work because he held a photo op.
If Biden had succeeded at student loan forgiveness that would mean moderates gave something up. He didn’t and thus it’s ridiculous to me they try to act like that’s a compromise. It was an attempt at a compromise which failed.
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I’m mid 30s so technically a millenial. Also I’m a progressive and voted for Sanders while you were playing with your fidget spinner in middle school.
Note the source of the poll. YouGov. They’re reliable and as I said that was one example. Every poll shows it’s young people.
But sure cling on to anecdotal evidence and call people you disagree with boomers. That’ll get you far lmao.
Are you calling yourself “young people” then? Your own poll shows 43% of Millennials believe genocide is being committed.
I’m saying they’ve been “educated” by Tiktok, AKA brainwashed.
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4349815-poll-americans-holocaust-myth/
I’m not about to unravel what your deal is here.
Biden needs these votes to win the 2024 general election. You can mock them all you like but that isn’t going to make them show up at the ballot box. If you don’t want Trump to win you’d better hope he stops sending weapons to Israel.
I’m aware.
There are people who are going to be dumb about this and stay home or vote third party. Thing is there’s nothing anyone will say or do that will change their minds one way or another. I know because I voted for Jill Stein in 2016, in Wisconsin. Some have to make the mistake first hand to know it was wrong. It is what it is.
Upshot is I suspect major operations will be wrapped up by late spring. If so Gaza will be a distant memory to most voters in November.
Biden had an 81,000 vote margin in the key electoral college states to work with in 2020. Hopefully he can take the hit this Gaza situation will bring.
If he can’t, so be it. Life will just get worse faster but at least I’ll get to have a little bit of schadenfreude on the way down watching the Tiktokd left live the meme.
I see that meme and I think moderates when they cry that their pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting trash candidate who refuses to compromise with leftists or progressives loses to Donald Trump.
You look at 2016 and you feel guilty for what you did. I look at 2016 and thought “surely moderates will see the error of their ways and understand they can’t win elections without us.”
Nope. Despite moderates being the majority voting bloc they convinced themselves and a good deal of progressives that it was our fault. It’s complete horse shit.
…with people who chant from the river to the sea yet cry genocide at every turn without a hint of Irony.
I take solace in the fact there’s not a damn thing you’re going to do that will change a thing.