With pressures mounting from Google’s own employees, regulators, & competitors, @MiaD says a de-Googled world, where Google is no longer the default, is on the horizon.
Want to join the movement? Start living Google-free today:
https://spreadprivacy.com/how-to-remove-google/
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/DuckDuckGo/status/1400448942853083146
This article by DuckDuckGo promotes Apple as a “private” alternative to Google. Apple promotes itself as privacy friendly, but it is not so. What is wrong with Apple.
The FSF warned about this in 2019. Any “privacy movement” that promotes proprietary software and attacks the free software (a.k.a. FOSS) movement is not one I want to be associated with.
A “degoogled” world is still a “facebooked”, “amazoned”, “microsofted” world. We need decentralized alternatives in general.
Yes! Start living the fediverse way.
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> Google Search -> DuckDuckGoThere are more private solutions, such as SearX.> YouTube -> VimeoYou can’t be serious…> Google Maps -> Apple MapsNo.> Android -> iOSIs this post just an Apple shill, or something? Why?> Google Chrome -> SafariOkay, it IS an Apple shilling post…> Google Chrome -> Brave/VivaldiOh God… are these REALLY private solutions? SERIOUSLY??> Google Hangouts -> FaceTime/Microsoft TeamsI give up.“spreadprivacy.com”? Where is the privacy part? All they are doing is make people drop Google for other corporate solutions! Doing so we’re just giving our data to other corporations instead of Google! Is this really the solution? Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, Netflix… all of them should be avoided as much as possible.
Do you want private solutions? OBLITERATE. ANY. KIND. OF. CORPORATE. SOFTWARE.
I’m sorry if I sound rude or aggressive, but this post is bullshit and it’s just spreading misinformation. It doesn’t provide any help, the opposite, it’s just promoting the use of more coporate software instead of FLOSS and decentralized solutions made by the community.
Do you want private solutions? OBLITERATE. ANY. KIND. OF. CORPORATE. SOFTWARE.
I love that!
It should be obvious to anyone working for any sizable corporate. It needs to be communicated to all.
Android is already open source though. I don’t see how going to the closed-sourced iOS is any kind of improvement.
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The big problem isn’t who knows how to use software for privacy but who doesn’t so leaving google is already a big start
Yes, but why would you point to Apple at all?
It’s not that Firefox is too arcane compared to Safari. Apple Maps is just aweful in terms of estimating ETAs and on top of that made by another coorporate that will extract value from any data point they have.
I mean in general:
Do you want private solutions? OBLITERATE. ANY. KIND. OF. CORPORATE. SOFTWARE.
is trivially true.
So let’s just make that point clear!
I’ve managed to remove several Google services from my normal use pretty easily. I actually pay for email now. I have to get back into using Open Street Maps, so if anyone knows a good client that would be appreciated!
Sadly, I’m still stuck on an Android phone. I didn’t realize it at the time, but the phone I bought isn’t supported by LineageOS and the like, so I’m kind of stuck for now.
Osmand is great, especially for hiking its better than google maps. Only disadvantage is that it has almost no businesses listed.
hehe I use it for hiking too. But yeah the lack of addresses and businesses is really unfortunate.
Oh wow! I didn’t think to try it for hiking. Thanks for the idea!
Is advertising like this allowed? https://lemmy.ml/post/68669/comment/59066
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For open street map, Magic Earth is decent, though it is proprietary. They still have a good privacy policy and aren’t in the advertising business so its clearly a step up from Google maps.
Thanks! I’ll have a look!
Haha! I’ve always avoided the proprietary OSM clients because it’s not 100% FOSS. But you’re right! It’s still better than Google Maps.
OSMAnd and the fork of MAPS.ME are FLOSS.
However, in the first one, avoid the nonfree complements and services (Mapillary is an example).
Have you tried Organic Maps yet? (I believe this is the “fork of maps.me” referenced in this thread)
You are all amazing!!!
I’m going to try out these suggestions over the next few weeks and put together a post with my experience.
Oof for the last part 😓
Client for the phone or on the desktop? What OS do u use?
For my Android phone. Something with good driving directions preferably.
Looks like a couple good suggestions on this thread. I’ll have to give them a try!
I use organic maps and it works really well
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I’d love to but they use google services at work so I’d have to quit my job to do so sadly
You can still start by your personal life. We all must make some compromises.
True!
I actually don’t use google at all outside of work. For following youtube channels I use something called https://www.newsblur.com/ for my RSS feed so my feed can be the same on several devices and computers, if that is of any help to anyone!
I really don’t see DDG as an alternative.
Can you explain why?
(Just out of curiosity.)
I guess it’s because it’s hosted in the US on Microsoft Azure
More than that, it doesn’t have its own indexes, most of them come from ms bing, see: https://lemmy.ml/post/43595/comment/22034
Has DDG mentioned what data, if any, they send to those indexes? I’m just wondering if, say Bing, just sees a single “user” for DDG with all the searches. Then at least your query is obfuscated among all the rest. Still not ideal, but better than Google anyway I think. I also think that’s how Searx works.
I hope they do. But I can’t really tell. Searx is another thing, since its code is FLOSS, and there are instances on different countries…
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Thanks for linking this thread though.
And what about Startpage?
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Is a valid criticism as it benefits Google’s monopolistic business.
The problem is that it isn’t free software. I recommend using Searx
I used Startpage recently because @dessalines@lemmy.ml recommend it here: https://dessalines.github.io/essays/favorite_apps_and_services.html
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But yeah, I tried SearX and I like it. Looks a bit outdated but overall offer great results and i felt lightweight too!
Nice :) You can switch themes with SearX. I also like the fact that you can choose from for example Qwant, DDG, Startpage,Yahoo (Google lately often gave errors about too many requests, so I turned that off). And if you don’t want or cannot self host it, there are a lot of SearX instances to choose from. https://searx.space/ <-> 90 online instances. Of course it is up to you which instance admin you like to trust.
What’s your favorite instance? Mine are (for now): https://searx.prvcy.eu/ and https://searx.fmac.xyz/
According to them, they still operate from EU (The Netherlands 🇳🇱). Here’s the link to the statement: https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/en/Knowledgebase/Article/View/1275/0/what-is-startpages-relationship-with-privacy-onesystem1-and-what-does-this-mean-for-my-privacy-protections
I see that I missed some news : https://www.startpage.com/privacy-please/startpage-articles/startpage-relisted-on-privacytools
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