Apple being Apple again. Just why does anyone actually like that company?

  • scarilog@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You can say many things about apple but clunky and unintuitive would not be it.

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      9 months ago

      You only find Apple’s UI intuitive because you’re used to it.

      I don’t find it intuitive at all. Whenever I’ve used an iPhone, I’ve had to ask for help.

      And I’m a full stack web developer, who contributes to some other software projects in my spare time. I’ve been around computers a fair bit.

      Operating systems these days are complicated. It’s difficult to make them immediately intuitive to a new user. This isn’t a dig at Apple. Any modern, highly featured OS is like this.

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        9 months ago

        Just wanted to chime in that I’m not an apple user, I primarily use android and windows. iPad is the only iOS device I use. I flat out disagree with clunky, Apple’s UI design (on iOS at least) is beautiful. UX wise, I can’t comment on functional differences between Android and iOS, at this stage in time, both are comparably usable for most people.

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Some apple user experience choices definitely feel clunky.

          Plugging an iPhone into a computer to move files around is a nightmare. The way notifications work on iOS is extremely clunky. Pairing non-apple devices to your apple device is purposely made clunky. Bastardising PWAs has led to them being clunky af.

          Using MacOS and having to memorise some wild keyboard shortcuts is clunky. Not being able to minimise a program by clicking the icon in the dock feels clunky. MacOS flipping out when you want to tile one window but not another feels clunky. Apple’s workspace view and app menu view not being integrated together (a la Gnome Activities view) feels clunky. The whole app installation process (outside of the Mac store) is super clunky.

          Apple is extremely visually consistent. But they absolutely have UX clunkiness, just as the others do. It’s fine though, most people don’t care. I’m pretty anal about these things.

          • hemmes@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            I mean this is all subjective of course, but something like installing apps on macOS is extremely easy. Like Windows, apps can install themselves in about three or so different ways (not including managed devices), but most macOS apps you download are simply dragged into the applications folder - that’s it. To uninstall, you drag the app to the trash bin and empty the trash.

      • PrivateNoob
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        9 months ago

        I’ve tried an Iphone XR for 1 month. It’s intuitive, but Android is too.

    • dustyData@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      I compel you to try to snap to tile a single windows to a side of the desktop in a macOS fresh install.

      spoiler

      You can’t because, to do that thing that every single desktop environment can do out of the box, you need to install a third party app on macOS. This and many other QoL features that are bog standard on Windows and Linux today are not present on macOS.

      Now, I want you to tell me out of the top of your head, what does pressing the green button achieves on the window for Safari? Do you think it will do the same on the settings window? What will it do for the App Store? Do you think it will do the same thing on all three or three different things? Which one do you expect?

      Final challenge, make the window for the calculator stay on top of all other windows.