• Ech@lemm.ee
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    I’m here for “Jon Stewart’s Daily Political Therapy Hour”

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      No thanks. We don’t need more celebs as president.

      It takes a lot more then just being a personality on TV to be a good president.

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        It’s supposed to take common sense, rationality and the ability to unite people. Things Jon Stewart celebrity or not, has.

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          It also takes a hell of a lot more than that. You don’t just need to convince an audience of people who mostly agree with you, you also have to convince a room full of rich legislators who only want for themselves (and occasionally their constituents) that they should do what he wants instead of what they want. It takes compromising your ideals for the sake of accomplishing something, even if it’s not everything you wanted.

          Just because he’d better than Trump doesn’t mean he’d be good.

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        Being a celebrity shouldn’t be disqualifying. Trump was a dumb, loud criminal before being president and stayed a dumb, loud crimnal as president.

        Stewart is in one of the most intelligent, articulate, charismatic and compassionate people in the public sphere and one can only hope he would be such as president. If he wanted to run, which he doesn’t.

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          intelligent, articulate, charismatic and compassionate people in the public sphere

          Great but it takes a lot more than that to be a GOOD president.

          You need to be more than just popular. I know it’s a common mistake to think celebrities will make good presidents because they have charisma.

          That is how we ended up with Trump.

          Have higher standards.

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            The most important qualification a leader can have is the trust of the population.

            Everything else is what advisors are for, and despite what you want to believe Stewart has seen how the kosher sausage is made, when he bullied Congress into taking care of the 9/11 first responders.

            There are many, many worse candidates out there, and quite frankly not many better.

            Is that a sad state of affairs?

            Sure. But it’s also reality.

            And, just fyi, Trump wasn’t a bad candidate because he was a TV celebrity.

            He was a bad candidate because he’s an idiotic fascist.

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              The most important qualification a leader can have is the trust of the population.

              Nope. Not at all. Again this is how we get people like Trump as president.

              He was a bad candidate because he’s an idiotic fascist.

              And yet half the population trusts the moron so we’re gonna agree to disagree.

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            That’s why I didn’t even mention “popular”, and listed a bunch of other traits besides charisma.

            Comparing Stewart with Trump is lazy and simplistic, do better.

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        It’s almost like a medieval peasant mentality, still regarding the presidency as some sort of faux-monarchy, with a certain aura, missing the point that an executive branch is not just a president who can work the cameras and microphones, that is just the tip of the iceberg, as there are a myriad employees chosen by the president and his top appointees.

        There’s an old chinese curse - “May your children live in interesting times”, and there is a saying that the best leaders are practically invisible, as the whole group works towards a common goal.
        We seem to always be living through interesting times, gravitating towards interesting characters, when what we really should want are boring government nerds who operate on reason and science, with no need nor inclination to make a loud splash.

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      He’s a great commentator and humorist… but he’d make a fucking awful president.

      He holds a lot of opinions I agree with (and some I don’t), but that doesn’t mean he’d somehow be able to steer the American political system in a way that would benefit most Americans. He’d mostly be yet another demagogue, just for the left instead of the right.

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            Why he would make a good president? I mean aside from “I like and agree with him”.

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              I’m sorry, that’s not how this works. I never advocated for him once. You are the one who said he:

              “[would] make a fucking awful president.”

              “[Wouldn’t be] be able to steer the American political system in a way that would benefit most Americans.” As opposed to Trump, his likely opponent…??

              “He’d mostly be yet another demagogue, just for the left instead of the right.”

              Do you have any sources for those, or are they just baseless opinions, like mine and everyone else’s…?

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            He helped the New York City first responders get benefits for 9/11 related diseases and injuries and how do you think pays for that?

            Taxpayer, that’s who.

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              “[Taxpayers] pay for that!” is a very misleading way to phrase it. State, Federal, sales, etc… You do realize they’re going to collect taxes no matter what, yes? I’m not getting them back! And if money already on-hand isn’t used to help literal hero firefighters in the form of the benefits they were promised for saving lives in the wake of the biggest terrorist attack against the country, then what the fuck should we spend it on!? Nothing?? It’s fine if you believe that, but it’s a totally different discussion…

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          Man, people just love dismissing any argument against something with the most inane bullshit…

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    I like that he’s doing this on Monday morning. It will be interesting to see how much he can influence the news cycle in that position.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Jon Stewart is opening up about his highly anticipated return as host of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show, nearly nine years after leaving the nightly gig.

    Though he has thoughts, Stewart — joining hosts Gayle King, Tony Dokoupil and Nate Burleson for an in-studio interview — was modest about the influence that his version of the show could have on real-world events.

    Just weeks after the 2016 presidential election, Stewart had a similar approach speaking at an event in New York, quickly rejecting arguments put forth online that his version of The Daily Show could have influenced the results.

    Ahead of his Monday return, Stewart also spoke with The Daily Show’s Ears Edition podcast about why he wanted to come back now.

    “Generally, I will be doing it with choreographed dance moves,” Stewart joked of how that shift would affect his approach, before turning serious and arguing that quality content will find an audience.

    The rest of the week, the series will be hosted by a rotating team of the show’s correspondents, who include Jordan Klepper, Desi Lydic, Ronny Chieng, Michael Kosta and Dulcé Sloan.


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    please down vote me but sadly his both sides suck comedy style, which is fine for a comedy show I am a big fan but at the time younger people used it as a primary news source and caused a lot of hopelessness in that demographic and gave Trump a lot of free publicity over other RNC candidates.

    so I do put a small amount of blame for Trump on him. I mean the DNC is the most to blame by putting up a garbage candidate and campaign thinking they were effectively running unopposed.

    I hope we don’t have another repeat with John back in that chair. please know I think he is a great person done so much good for vets and 9/11 rescue personnel out of that chair.

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      He doesn’t have a “both sides suck comedy style” he has always called out bullshit where he sees it. A lot of the show was fact checking Fox News because that’s where most of the bullshit is. He also left the show in 2015 so he didn’t host the show during the election.

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        I agree with you I think we are saying the same thing but Jon didn’t highlight the threat that Trump was and the election cycle for primary candidates was in 2015. I was there I remember Jon along with everyone else in the media. I want to be clear I don’t think Jon went out of his way to do this he was just commenting on the media landscape at the time but he also got distracted by the clown show like everyone else I mean why wouldn’t he trumps bullshit was a comedy gold.

        I think if he could do it all over again he would have sounded the alarm bells. But it also sucks that journalism got so bad at that and even worse today that it really feels that we had to get our news from comedians in the first place because all the other journalists are covering the next extreme tweat or what people are posting on social media as news. with all their dumb touch screens gimmicks.

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          Based on everything you just said I’d think you’d be glad to have him back then. Because it’s obvious he takes Trump seriously now. But back in the primaries nobody took any republican candidate seriously, especially the DNC. And to be fair, neither did I. It was a clown show. If Hillary’s campaign hadn’t been so overconfident and tried harder to win over Sanders supporters things would likely be a lot different.

          Maybe Stewart would have made a difference if he stayed, because the Daily Show lost a lot of relevance without him, but at the time he had covered a lot of elections and didn’t have it in him to do it again. I just don’t think it’s fair to put any of the blame on Stewart. He fought his entire career for the media to be better than this. Did he fail? Arguably, yes. But he did fight and he should be commended for that, not blamed for the circus that is American politics today.

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            oh 100% I agree with you he is different now but based on what I saw on Monday everything he said was true but not helpful since the deadline to replace biden has passed I would have rather seen him not take the easy hanging fruit of Biden is too old which I agree with and focus more on the RNC is a mess and trump thinks he is above the law.

            Like I said before he was only a very small part of the problem back then and now I’m not sure he is relevant enough to make change now. but let me be clear I don’t blame him for the problems I blame him for not being a solution and going along for the ride. I think he is a smart man and I’m a huge fan of his. I guess really I blame all of us that don’t hold our journalists accountable. the people that show up for their 1984 style of two minutes of hate but instead of two minutes it’s 24 hours and in your pocket.

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              If Daily show is relevant at all this election it will be because of Jon. This episode was him reestablishing himself as the most trusted man in news. Stewart has plenty of time to kill trump. But don’t expect him to be a champion for democrats. He never has been. He has a chance now though.

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    I will watch Jon Stewart’s Daily Show… IF.

    The bare minimum paperwork, in 50 states, is filed for general election.

    Jon Stewart (I as in I am definitely left leaning), write in candidate for President of the United States.

    If he cant cash that check, I am not particularly interested in hearing his rhetoric. At this point.

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      This is possibly the dumbest thing I have read today.

      So the only way you’re willing to listen to discourse is if the one speaking is a candidate for president? That’s absurd yet it’s kind of what you wrote.

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        To be honest, I was saying this largely because I was afraid that Jon was returning to shill for Biden and advance the “Union busting, rapidly expanding American poverty, global war, and genocide are okay as long as a Democrat is doing it” stance the Democrats have developed.

        Well, I have seen a couple clips from his return, and that is not the case. I guess I got jaded in his absence. I should have known that Jon is better than that.

        That said, I desperately want ANYONE other than Trump or Biden to take office next term.

        Jon has the name recognition, he has the knowledge, and he has the passion.

        My short list so far as been Bernie or Ro Khanna.

        Since Jon wanted a voice in politics again, I wanted to add him to the short list of alternatives so he can put his money where his mouth is.

        Back to the Future II already became reality when Trump got elected. Why cant Man of the Year become reality too?