I have noticed a huge difference between Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml in terms of what kinds of theory gets upvoted and downvoted. What is the general vibe on here towards actually existing socialism as well as the ideas towards reformism?

  • gaberlunzie@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As for Uighurs, they’re thriving and developing most rapidly in Xinjiang province, while the Western-backed extremist are indeed no more, exiled to their sponsors. Of course, the West has no problem sponsoring extremists, be it Nazis in Ukraine, Isis (and White Helmets) in Syria, rightwing death squads in the Americas, etc.

    In the case of Tiananmen, that was an early colour revolution that got rightly squashed, demonstrating the need for strong government against foreign interventions that China is no stranger to since the 1800s regarding Japan and the West.

    Almost forgot to mention, North Korea was bombed almost to oblivion until the USA literally ran out of bombs. Speaks for itself. .

    • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Drop the whataboutism with the west. I agree it has lots of problems. But that doesn’t justify the problems of your authoritarian sect. The treatment of the Ughurs was and is still wrong. Ongoing. It hasn’t magically gotten better

      The fact that the protestors in Tienanmen square were planning and expecting the brutal authoritarian government would start bloodshed against them. Doesn’t justify the governments bloodshed. This sort of circular logic is why no one takes you seriously.

      And no, that doesn’t speak for itself. It’s been 60, 70 years since then. And a lot of what’s happened since then is on North Korea and the Kim-jeong family. The fake cities being built with no one living in them. The starvation of the people. The brutal repression. Again the west has problems too. But you can’t admonish the west and cheer on the brutal repression of authoritarian regimes of Marxist Leninist oxymoron countries. And not be anything other than a hypocrite.