Senators on Sunday released a highly anticipated $118 billion package that pairs border enforcement policy with wartime aid for Ukraine, Israel and other U.S. allies, setting off a long-shot effort to push the bill through heavy skepticism from Republicans, including House Speaker Mike Johnson.

The proposal is the best chance for President Joe Biden to resupply Ukraine with wartime aid — a major foreign policy goal that is shared with both the Senate’s top Democrat, Sen. Chuck Schumer, and top Republican, Sen. Mitch McConnell. The Senate was expected this week to hold a key test vote on the legislation, but it faces a wall of opposition from conservatives.

With Congress stalled on approving $60 billion in Ukraine aid, the U.S. has halted shipments of ammunition and missiles to Kyiv, leaving Ukrainian soldiers outgunned as they try to beat back Russia’s invasion.

The new bill would also invest in U.S. defense manufacturing, send $14 billion in military aid to Israel, steer nearly $5 billion to allies in the Asia-Pacific, and provide humanitarian assistance to civilians caught in conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza.

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    So a bad thing, a good thing, and a bad thing. And luckily the Republicans in the House are likely to block it, but for the wrong reasons, while also suffering for it politically.

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      It’s cute that you think anyone but Democrats will suffer politically when this fails.

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        I know for one thing that fewer Palestinians will suffer for it failing. I also find your rhetorical device to be quite stale.

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      Think of it as a good thing for one group and for another group and for a third. Overall it has something good for most of us. This is how compromise used to work

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        I for one am not pleased to get a good thing at the expense of thousands of dead Palestinians or border security that denies the right to asylum because migrants are politically inconvenient. The Republicans held hostage munitions to kill Arabic people (a usually Republican priority) for an inhumane border policy (another Republican party). And Democrats pat themselves on the back for bipartisan negotiation.

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      Seems like 3 good things to me, money to allies and border control all wrapped in one package.

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          Regardless of what israil is doing the USA has a duty to their allies its called ensuring the global order. And border control is most definatly nessasary i think u will find that border control is a bipartisan issue they just disagree about implementarion. Unfortunarly neither side will get any implementation cos the deepstate (the american economy) needs a cheap disposable workforce and it wants to keep that workforce illegal, makes em easy to fire, prevents unionisation, and can be abused etc etc. here is a decent explanation

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            We also have a duty, if you wanna put it that way, not to support genocide. Let me put it simple for you since you aren’t getting it. I. Do. Not. Want. My. Tax. Dollars. Spent. On. Genocide.

            As for your other argument, I’m not even going to address it, like I’m going to change your mind anyway. I don’t even know why I bother responding go stuff like this.

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              I support no side of the whole israil palestine clusterfuck its simply 2 nations killing eachother its called war shit happens. USA has a duty to their ally in a war thats what allies are for. And its not a genocide if u win have u heard of dresdon or hiroshima or nagasaki all where full of innocent civilians same as what israil is doing to palestine.

              As for my other agument im guessing ur not going to address it cos its a good argument and ur incapable of finding a logical responce.

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            What Israel is doing is not helping ensure the global order you dolt

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              Its not about israel they are a footnote. Its about who isnt going to trust the USA when the USA offers protection in exchange for something. If people stop trusting the USA will protect them the rules based world order colapses and everyone scrambles to get the bigger stick which always happens to be MAD.

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            You can’t have a global order, or order at all, if the rules aren’t the same for everyone. Every time the West allows one of its allies to do something vile it’s going to be used as a justification by someone else. Allowing criminals on our side already let literal Nazis walk free in Nuremberg, and it’s the favorite excuse of international criminals worldwide - Kremlin’s keyboards probably have a “What about …” button to save them time.

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          “Isn’t even necessary”

          It’s definitely a necessity to secure our border and protect the country from those that wish to subvert its law and order.

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              Damn right, anyone that is breaking or subverting the laws of the US should be prosecuted.

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                Have you actually read all the laws? I’m pretty sure you broke a few just replying to me on Lemmy.

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                  L take, only in a tankies wet dream is going against the popular opinion on social media a crime.

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              You don’t get to break into the country, there are legal ways to immigrate to the US. If you don’t follow US law, you don’t deserve to be here.

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                  Back in a less civilized time when American Indians were fighting each other and conquering lands as well? Warfare is warfare, this is different. Also, if I remember correctly the American Indians fought and lost against the US, why wouldn’t we fight back now?

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                Okay. Expand immigration limits and make it easier for people to immigrate legally.

                Until we do that, I have no issue with them subverting a system that exists just to keep whites in power.

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                  I don’t see a problem with current immigration limits, and on your second point, people legally immigrate everyday, if they cannot follow a system millions have used before, they shouldn’t be in the country.

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                    If you don’t like it, maybe you should move to a white ethnostate.

                    We welcome immigrants here, and before you say it, humans can’t be “illegal”. These people add nothing but richness and culture to our country. It’s the reason we were able to rise to power in the way we did.

                    You bought the propaganda; these people are not criminals. And when the election is over, you’ll forget all about this “caravan” (or whatever), just like the one Republicans made up last election.

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            PSA: Don’t feed the troll. That angry feeling right now that is driving you to comment? Don’t chase that.

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          The legal immigrants that naturalize or are in the process of naturalization everyday. If you cannot follow the laws of the country, you don’t deserve to enter.

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            So the path that’s intentionally difficult for people from Latin America to follow.

            How about we open up that path to them? That would solve a lot.

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              Why should we lower standards for particular groups of people. Besides asylum seekers, which you can claim at any legal entrance into the country and do not need to illegally break in, all people attempting to become Americans should be held to the same standard.

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            If you cannot follow the laws of the country, you don’t deserve to enter.

            Absolutely bullshit argument when we consider things like seeking asylum to be illegal. And that’s not even touching the fact that you seem to equate legality with morality…

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              These aren’t asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants running the border. Asylum seekers can claim asylum status at any legal entryway. On your second point, if you can’t follow the country’s laws, you shouldn’t be allowed a visa into the country. Morality or otherwise, do it the legal way and everyone’s happy.