Quick, someone call out Hungary’s lack of democracy again! Still time to avoid this shitty alliance. Don’t want to be in an alliance with criminal countries like the US and Turkey.
Not like Russia is a threat when they can’t even take Poland. We’ve got enough defense with our EU and Nordic treaties.
Sweden is not like Finland where NATO has had an 80% support since Russia started their war against Ukraine. For understandable reasons – mainland swedes have pretty much never been at risk from Russia whereas Finland has no risks except Russia.
I think he’s American, and has suffered due to their inferior educational system (AU here, nice job negotiating with Turkey’s dictatorship for your own security SE!)
They made it an election promise to join NATO. It’s so sus that our own defence has been dismantled for 20 years, and when Russia is flailing we’re rushing through a NATO membership. No public vote on that one.
Red army’s stationed in Berlin at the end of WWII, but Sweden doesn’t consider that a big enough threat to join NATO. Russian army is now in eastern Ukraine, which would’ve been deep within the Soviet Union at the end of the WW, and suddenly we have to join NATO to keep safe. You know, protect ourselves against imperialism by joining the chief imperialist block and give the top imperialists access to 17 military bases on our soil. We’ve become so pathetic compared to the swedes from the fifties. They valued true independence, we gargle uncle Sam’s balls instead to feel safe. Sweden was uniquely independent, we’re now in alliance with Turkey and the US. That’s quite a fall from grace and it makes me sad. Like I’m losing what made my country special.
Sweden wasn’t as uniquely independent as you think, nor as special. Countries’ leaders act in the country’s interest. The circumstances are different this time - Sweden, like Ireland, was notionally independent in WWII but we all knew whose side they were on, even if non-combatants.
Quick, someone call out Hungary’s lack of democracy again! Still time to avoid this shitty alliance. Don’t want to be in an alliance with criminal countries like the US and Turkey.
Not like Russia is a threat when they can’t even take Poland. We’ve got enough defense with our EU and Nordic treaties.
Nice try, Russian troll
This is a fairly common opinion in Sweden among people.
Sweden is not like Finland where NATO has had an 80% support since Russia started their war against Ukraine. For understandable reasons – mainland swedes have pretty much never been at risk from Russia whereas Finland has no risks except Russia.
But I think still a good 60% support NATO, right?
Lol I’m Swedish. It’s possible to be against NATO without being a paid actor. Jävla jänkare är helt korkade.
I think he’s American, and has suffered due to their inferior educational system (AU here, nice job negotiating with Turkey’s dictatorship for your own security SE!)
Don’t point fingers.
They made it an election promise to join NATO. It’s so sus that our own defence has been dismantled for 20 years, and when Russia is flailing we’re rushing through a NATO membership. No public vote on that one.
Yeah that was a big fucking mistake.
Red army’s stationed in Berlin at the end of WWII, but Sweden doesn’t consider that a big enough threat to join NATO. Russian army is now in eastern Ukraine, which would’ve been deep within the Soviet Union at the end of the WW, and suddenly we have to join NATO to keep safe. You know, protect ourselves against imperialism by joining the chief imperialist block and give the top imperialists access to 17 military bases on our soil. We’ve become so pathetic compared to the swedes from the fifties. They valued true independence, we gargle uncle Sam’s balls instead to feel safe. Sweden was uniquely independent, we’re now in alliance with Turkey and the US. That’s quite a fall from grace and it makes me sad. Like I’m losing what made my country special.
Sweden wasn’t as uniquely independent as you think, nor as special. Countries’ leaders act in the country’s interest. The circumstances are different this time - Sweden, like Ireland, was notionally independent in WWII but we all knew whose side they were on, even if non-combatants.
Yes. Sweden was somehow on the Nazi’s side first and then the Allies’
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More like Finland told you to join and you obeyed.