a continent united through trade, (mostly) shared currency, open borders, and a union that governs over member countries each having their own laws.
Now compare it to the US, united through trade, open borders, shared currency, and a federal government that governs member states that each have their own laws.
obviously there are major diffences between the two but for the sake of comparison in the “who put more effort into something” debate comparing US and Europe on the grounds of “single country vs many countries” is rather silly
Well the other person said you can compare based on surface area (wtf?) and population. Googling population of Europe gives me a number that’s twice the size of the USA. So per capita, assuming they’ve both given the same effort, the USA has given twice as much as Europe.
Not only that, but Putin has essentially started a 2nd cold war, with Iran and China as allies. This has not been prevented, the US is just helping fight it while they can (Trump clearly won’t, and it’s clear GQP majority in congress has stopped a big portion of this aid).
In regards to “saved democracy”, the US should look to Europe to save its own. It is because of coalitions based democracy based on a plurality of parties that values compromises even if each party has their own goals, that reactionary populism has been denied because of its inability to compromise or make promises that could be trusted. In Europe, third party votes matter, and party shenanigans to keep candidates out by dividing votes during primaries is not a thing. Europe is still susceptible, but not as much. At least manage to stop a near century of gerrymandering, can the US at least do that?
“saved democracy in Europe”? i’d argue democracy works better here than in the US of A, and certainly not due to any US president
Saved from a Russian invasion. It’s a bit exaggerated, but not entirely untrue I believe.
Europe has contributed more money than USA, so they can share a little less than half the credit.
It’s basically the same deal as WW2 - sure, the USA has had a big impact - but Europe’s not exactly shirked its share of the heavy lifting.
You are comparing a single country to an entire continent though
a continent united through trade, (mostly) shared currency, open borders, and a union that governs over member countries each having their own laws.
Now compare it to the US, united through trade, open borders, shared currency, and a federal government that governs member states that each have their own laws.
obviously there are major diffences between the two but for the sake of comparison in the “who put more effort into something” debate comparing US and Europe on the grounds of “single country vs many countries” is rather silly
Well the other person said you can compare based on surface area (wtf?) and population. Googling population of Europe gives me a number that’s twice the size of the USA. So per capita, assuming they’ve both given the same effort, the USA has given twice as much as Europe.
Come up with a metric that’s not silly then.
Not only that, but Putin has essentially started a 2nd cold war, with Iran and China as allies. This has not been prevented, the US is just helping fight it while they can (Trump clearly won’t, and it’s clear GQP majority in congress has stopped a big portion of this aid).
In regards to “saved democracy”, the US should look to Europe to save its own. It is because of coalitions based democracy based on a plurality of parties that values compromises even if each party has their own goals, that reactionary populism has been denied because of its inability to compromise or make promises that could be trusted. In Europe, third party votes matter, and party shenanigans to keep candidates out by dividing votes during primaries is not a thing. Europe is still susceptible, but not as much. At least manage to stop a near century of gerrymandering, can the US at least do that?
Kinda missing the forest for the trees there
Where do you think Europe would draw the line with Russia?