She’s graduated from nursing school with a master’s degree, which probably means she’s not a nurse (because why would you phrase it like that), but a professional equivalent.
A nurse practitioner (Masters or Ph.D) is also a nurse, they can just do a lot more than other types of nurses. A nurse is just someone trained to provide medical care who is not a doctor. They can work on their own, or with a doctor, though they are usually more limited in the types of care they can provide vs a doctor.
So calling her a nurse is completely accurate. She went to nursing school, not medical school, so she’s a nurse, not a doctor.
I don’t think the requirements for giving vaccines are that high. It’s not that difficult to do (for most vaccines at least). Most pharmacists do it as well.
I don’t understand what you’re objecting to. Why wouldn’t you want more people being able to distribute vaccines? Making it easier for people to get vaccinated is a Good Thing™. What “expertise” do you think is needed?
A pharmacist is still a medically trained doctor, they usually have at least one RN on staff as well, and the last time I got a vaccine at Walgreens it was the RN that administered it to me.
A midwife is by definition a nurse. The full title is certified nurse midwife (CNM). Midwifery is extra training beyond normal nursing duties but they still have all standard nurse training as well.
I don’t see why not. Like I said, they’re still a nurse. Being a midwife is additional training on top of that. At most hospitals when they aren’t midwifing then they are still just doing other nurse stuff elsewhere. My mom is literally a midwife but she also frequently works shifts in various other departments. It doesn’t take anything special to administer vaccines. Any nurse can give someone a shot.
Your original comment that I was replying to asked why a midwife could give vaccines when that was a job for nurses and pediatricians. I was pointing out that midwifes are nurses. I wasn’t responding to the article. As far as administering a vaccine, which is what I assumed your second comment was talking about, any nurse can do that. Even a pharmacy intern can administer vaccines.
The fact that this person is a quack has nothing to do with what a midwife is or weather they can administer vaccines.
I am not arguing it’s hard to administer vaccines. I’m arguing, in this anti-vaccine world, who do we trust to actually do it and document it properly?
How is a midwife authorized to give vaccines in the first place? Seems like a job for pediatricians and nurses.
She’s graduated from nursing school with a master’s degree, which probably means she’s not a nurse (because why would you phrase it like that), but a professional equivalent.
A nurse practitioner (Masters or Ph.D) is also a nurse, they can just do a lot more than other types of nurses. A nurse is just someone trained to provide medical care who is not a doctor. They can work on their own, or with a doctor, though they are usually more limited in the types of care they can provide vs a doctor.
So calling her a nurse is completely accurate. She went to nursing school, not medical school, so she’s a nurse, not a doctor.
I don’t think the requirements for giving vaccines are that high. It’s not that difficult to do (for most vaccines at least). Most pharmacists do it as well.
It’s not that it’s hard, but you need to have qualifications to avoid fakers.
And to that point why not authorize a midwife to vaccinate? They’re already delivering a baby.
These were not newborns. They were school age kids.
Ah - yeah - I just mean that if you’re going to trust somebody to be a midwife it’s not much of a stretch to trust them to do vaccinations.
I mean, I don’t trust midwives as it is. But their “expertise” is limited to delivering babies.
I don’t understand what you’re objecting to. Why wouldn’t you want more people being able to distribute vaccines? Making it easier for people to get vaccinated is a Good Thing™. What “expertise” do you think is needed?
This woman wasn’t distrusting vaccines, she was helping people fake them.
More people with fewer qualifications to offer them is more opportunity for antivaxxers to help people fake vaccination.
A pharmacist is still a medically trained doctor, they usually have at least one RN on staff as well, and the last time I got a vaccine at Walgreens it was the RN that administered it to me.
A midwife is by definition a nurse. The full title is certified nurse midwife (CNM). Midwifery is extra training beyond normal nursing duties but they still have all standard nurse training as well.
Ok. Why would you take a school-aged child to a midwife?
I don’t see why not. Like I said, they’re still a nurse. Being a midwife is additional training on top of that. At most hospitals when they aren’t midwifing then they are still just doing other nurse stuff elsewhere. My mom is literally a midwife but she also frequently works shifts in various other departments. It doesn’t take anything special to administer vaccines. Any nurse can give someone a shot.
I don’t see why when there are pediatricians.
And this wasn’t someone doing side work at a hospital, this was a charlatan selling fake vaccine records as a business.
Your original comment that I was replying to asked why a midwife could give vaccines when that was a job for nurses and pediatricians. I was pointing out that midwifes are nurses. I wasn’t responding to the article. As far as administering a vaccine, which is what I assumed your second comment was talking about, any nurse can do that. Even a pharmacy intern can administer vaccines.
The fact that this person is a quack has nothing to do with what a midwife is or weather they can administer vaccines.
I am not arguing it’s hard to administer vaccines. I’m arguing, in this anti-vaccine world, who do we trust to actually do it and document it properly?