• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    As someone who moved to a country with privatized healthcare and is currently sitting in a 10 minute line to get seen, this meme can shove itself up OPs butt.

    Universal healthcare is great, but someone should be able to pay to get seen quickly. I want that option.

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      No, they should not be able to. The most in need of treatment should get treatment first, period. Paying to get seen quickly is quite literally paying to have someone higher up on the priority list bumped down due to their financial capability.

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        “Lol sorry mate, yea you’re in excruciating pain and can afford a private doctor in 2/3rds of the world, but maybe you shouldn’t have done something stupid to wind up this way. Please wait 6 hours.”

        “Why are all the wealthy people moving away???”

        I personally take pride in not giving the Canadian government their absurd tax rate anymore.

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          If you’re in excruciating pain, you aren’t going to wait longer than people higher up in the priority list. Paying to get ahead means you’re skipping people who need the care more than you do, and you’re saying that you shouldn’t have to be treated like the rest of the poors.

          Honestly disgusting rhetoric.

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            I’d love to agree, but 2 months ago my mum had a minor stroke and waited all day to get seen. Here’s the chat from her time:

            Mum triage messages

            She could have driven to the states and paid for treatment in that time. Paying means you’re skipping the queue? I’m asking for private hospitals that can actually manage their queue.

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              That says nothing about who was ahead of her in line. Sounds like you need more funding for Healthcare, not bullshit privatized hospitals that cause poor people to die or go bankrupt.

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                Sure, country needs more funding for healthcare. Hope they have fun with that, I left. I voted and advocated for education and healthcare while I was there, but I’m not gonna die over it. I got other things to do with my life.

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          Damn that’s crazy bro… Go fly to your private hospital then

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            If it means literally not dying, buying a plane ticket to a place with healthcare seems reasonable to me. It’s what people in 3rd world countries do, so why shouldn’t we?

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          The funny thing is that there is privatized healthcare in Canada on top of their universal healthcare, if you see yourself more important than the peasants who need to use it.

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      I’m in Canada and you really know what hospital in your city to go to, there’s one or two with crazy wait times but in general it’s fine. Or you go to a walk in clinic unless you’re critical. Paying a premium to get in quick sounds fine, until you realize your paying to get in quicker, just shoved a poor person who may be worse off than you, to the back of the line cause they can’t afford the premium service.

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      Nobody should be able to pay to get seen quickly, that bloats the entire system and fundamentally destroys the concept of triage.

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        The fundamental flaw with your argument is you’re assuming hospitals can’t do more with more funding

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          Triage will exist regardless of the size of the hospital. If people can pay more, then it should be funded with more taxes, not privatized so that the concept of triage is ruined and poor people die because rich people want to cut in line.

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            Pretty much same reply as I made to another comment -

            Then it should be funded with more taxes

            Yea it should. Hope they have fun with it, I left because I’m not gonna risk dying while they figure that out.

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      As a follow-up, perhaps the issue isn’t private vs public healthcare, because both the US and Canada are melting garbage. In any case, I moved to Korea, and the healthcare is to die for (thankfully I no longer need to do that).